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Old August 14 2010, 12:03 AM   #16
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Re: Christopher Nolan will give Brandon Routh a screentest

Routh is a terrible actor. Nolan should choose John Hamm, if age doesn't matter, and if he does need a young'un, Matthew Bomer would be the acceptable second choice.
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Old August 14 2010, 12:49 AM   #17
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What people have to realize is that being that the character is an alien... it's Clark that is the disguise.
That depends on which version you go with. The Clark Kent who came to Earth as infant, was raised as a human and only developed powers gradually is no more "alien" than the Flash. ( at least in his head) Both his public personas, Superman and the public Clark, are disguises to some extent. The real Clark is the guy at home with his parents or alone in his apartment. ( or with Lois in later stories).

The Clark Kent, who as Kal-el, came to Earth as a toddler with a full range of powers, memories of Krypton and has had to hide who he is since childhood probably thinks of himself as alien.
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Old August 14 2010, 03:01 AM   #18
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I think he was great in Superman Returns. All the acting was good... it was just a terrible script.
You're wrong. It was a great script. I've read it. It was just poorly realized by the director.
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Old August 14 2010, 04:20 AM   #19
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Nolan might indeed give Routh a screentest to appease the fanboys, but I doubt he'll seriously consider him.
I agree with this. If the article is indeed true, I'd bet Nolan is offering him a screen test merely out of courtesy and a future defence to the fanboys. "Well, we did test him...we just felt he wasn't right for the direction we were going."

But I implore Nolan...seriously consider him. He's great, and could do it differently, and if he's right for the role, don't worry about stupid audiences confusing timelines and shit. They'll get it and they'll go.
I'd love for it to happen but I think the general 'need' to keep away from any link to Superman Returns will prevent it.
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Old August 14 2010, 04:29 AM   #20
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Batman Begins and Superman Returns both made $200 million, but only Batman got a sequel. If Superman Returns' budget had been kept around Batman Begins' budget we would have already gotten another more action packed Singer directed Superman movie by now.

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Old August 14 2010, 04:45 AM   #21
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Superman Returns world wide $391 million (Cost US $209 million)
Batman Begins world wide $372 million (Cost US $150 million)

SR deserved a sequel.

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Old August 14 2010, 04:56 AM   #22
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The one thing Superman Returns badly needed was a great fight scene. Audiences these days have been a little spoiled and they all expect to see awesome fight scenes from their superhero movies. During the movie, Lex should have put on Kryptonian armor and had a fist fight with Superman. They should have punched each other through buildings near the end of the movie or something.

Think Matrix Revoluions, but without the bad dialogue from Neo.
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Old August 14 2010, 04:58 AM   #23
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Superman should have wrassled a giant spider.
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Old August 14 2010, 04:59 AM   #24
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The budget for SR was bloated...and yes Superman has to throw a punch...why Singer/writers didn't get this....I don't know. I have read on here before some people don't think a Superman needs action...but for real...it does. JMHO.
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Old August 14 2010, 05:02 AM   #25
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Wait a minute...how can it be a great script and not realized by the director when the script was his own story pitch? Harris and Dougherty wrote the script by the story was pitched by Bryan himself. That comment doesn't make any sense.

As for Brandon Routh can't act...disagree totally. He was fantastic in the small comedic role he had in "Zack and Miri Make a Porno" , I enjoyed his performances in "Chuck" last season and he looks outstanding in the small clips I've seen him in "Scott Pilgrim Vs the World" as Todd Ingram. He was fine as Clark Kent and Superman. He portrayed Clark more than he did Superman because the story was about Clark returning to the life that he had abandoned in a search that proved to be futile and a trick by Luthor to lure Superman away. I would love for Brandon to return as Superman if possible (I doubt this will happen and Nolan will cast someone else) and if it doesn't happen then as I've said in other threads I'd like to see Matthew Bomer get the role.
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Old August 14 2010, 05:07 AM   #26
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Here; http://trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=4296228&postcount=131

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The list was from...

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/02/12...play-superman/

Barrowman, Bomer, Cavill, Hamm & Routh.

http://www.fandango.com/movieblog/fi...an-590174.html

I pulled Chace Crawford from this list...also John Krasinski, Nathan Fillion, Scott Porter & Will Smith were mentioned.

Tom Welling was added because his name get thrown around because of Smallville and I added Christian Howard as my personal pick.

Joe Manganiello(True Blood, Spider-Man) has been mentioned before...he is 6'5" so he is tall enough.
Out of all the names brought up...Routh or Welling or someone new...Bomer or Hamm...I don't see it. JMHO.
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Old August 14 2010, 05:35 AM   #27
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I thought Routh was great as Clark, but I didn't care all that much for his Superman. Some of his delivery just seemed... off. I could see if they were going for something where he was having trouble readjusting to being Superman or dealing with people after his return, but he had no problem slipping back into being Clark Kent at the Planet, and his Superman never improved, so I just have to chalk it up to a less than stellar performance.

Still, I'd be perfectly willing to give him another shot.

I also thought Dean Cain was a much better Clark Kent than he was Superman. He just never seemed all that comfortable in the suit, while his Clark felt much more natural. In fact, Cain's Clark, modeled I believe on the more confident John Byrne version, I thought was actually quite good. If that's the kind of Clark they want to go for in the new one, I say bring it on.
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Old August 14 2010, 05:38 AM   #28
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Agreed about Dean Cain.
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Old August 14 2010, 07:22 AM   #29
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because the story was about Clark returning to the life that he had abandoned in a search that proved to be futile and a trick by Luthor to lure Superman away.
Is this true? i have Superman Returns, but I don't remember this.
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Old August 14 2010, 11:42 AM   #30
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Wait a minute...how can it be a great script and not realized by the director when the script was his own story pitch? Harris and Dougherty wrote the script by the story was pitched by Bryan himself. That comment doesn't make any sense.
It makes perfect sense, and I am in total agreement with Admiral James Kirk. Bryan Singer indeed conceived the story but he did not write the script. Dan Harris and Michael Dougherty wrote the script. No matter how involved you are in the development of the story, when you write the script it takes a completely different turn. As the industry saying goes, a good director can take a mediocre script and make it compelling and a bad director can take a good script and turn it into shit.

In this instance I think Singer had too much closeness with the material, if that makes sense. I've read Harris and Dougherty's script and it is indeed fantastic. However, during the shooting and editing of the film Singer made some pretty radical changes like cutting out Superman's trip to Krypton (which was an $8 million sequence) and re-arranging some things editorially that made the film less about Superman's return to a world he abandoned and more about his relationship with Lois Lane.

I've had some experience creating a story and then directing it based on a script that I didn't write, and you can absolutely lose perspective. It's very possible. I think Singer was too emotionally attached to the story he was telling and he got side-tracked during the making of the film. Singer even comments on this in interviews how he reshaped the film during editing. He's also the kind of director that comes up with new ideas on the fly and I think Superman Returns was one case where this ideology worked against him.

I say this as a staunch supporter of Superman Returns as well.
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