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Old August 5 2010, 01:17 AM   #481
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And it's worth noting that Inception isn't really about "dreaming" as we know it; it's about lucid dreaming in an artificially-constructed environment, so the result is more akin to virtual reality.
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Old August 5 2010, 01:25 AM   #482
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And it's worth noting that Inception isn't really about "dreaming" as we know it; it's about lucid dreaming in an artificially-constructed environment, so the result is more akin to virtual reality.
I saw it very much as being like lucid dreaming too, only the "lucid dreamers" were the team the "mark" wasn't lucid dreaming.
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Old August 5 2010, 06:26 PM   #483
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I love how the nonexistent voters who voted "poor" have a tiny little teal-colored bar of decidedly nonzero length to represent their 0.000000 votes.
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Old August 6 2010, 08:46 PM   #484
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this article points out some things I had a problem with
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Old August 6 2010, 11:38 PM   #485
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That guy doesn't really point out problematic things: he describes a different movie that he thinks he would enjoy more.
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Old August 7 2010, 04:06 AM   #486
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That guy doesn't really point out problematic things: he describes a different movie that he thinks he would enjoy more.
Exactly. The point of the other characters isn't important, every movie that brings around a heavy sci-fi concept like this needs a exposition-monkey to explain things to audience and that Cobb, or any story, needs a physical counterpart as the "heavy" is stupid. Contless great stories have been written and told where the heavy/anatagonist is also the protagonist.

Cobb fighting his inner demons/projection of Mal is vastly more interesting and heavy in terms of drama and emotion than another, physical person would be or an "anti-team" working against them.

Cobb coming to grips with his guilt, forgiving himself and moving on choosing what he believes to be reality (assuming where he ends up at the end of the movie is as much of the "real world" as we thought we were in all along) over an eternity in Limbo suffering over his own guilt with the ghost of his memories of his live is pretty damn interesting. A lot more interesting that it'd be if the "heavy" was another team of dream-invaders.
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Old August 7 2010, 04:35 AM   #487
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That guy doesn't really point out problematic things: he describes a different movie that he thinks he would enjoy more.
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Old August 7 2010, 07:20 PM   #488
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I just got back from seeing Inception for the first time and there were about 7 people in the theater. I was originally just going to save my money and stream it online, but decided against it. I'm glad that I did. It was amazing and I was surprised that I enjoyed it so much. I absolutely loved the ending. It totally fit the theme of the movie and was a perfect choice.
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Old August 7 2010, 11:00 PM   #489
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And it's worth noting that Inception isn't really about "dreaming" as we know it; it's about lucid dreaming in an artificially-constructed environment, so the result is more akin to virtual reality.
Which is far less visually interesting than if they really tried to place the world in a stream of subconsciousness.
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Old August 8 2010, 07:44 AM   #490
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I still don't understand why some people insist that Inception would have been a better movie if it had looked a little more like What Dreams May Come.
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Old August 8 2010, 08:22 PM   #491
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While Leo was great in it. Anybody wonder how Nolan's other leads: Christian Bale, Guy Pearce, Hugh Jackman and maybe in some aspect Robin Williams or Al Pacino would have faired as Cobb?
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Old August 8 2010, 10:07 PM   #492
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I loved the film but I left the cinema with the sort of unsettled, queasy feeling you get after a one-night stand.
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Old August 8 2010, 10:29 PM   #493
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That's your conscience son...ya' gotta' kill that.
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Old August 8 2010, 10:48 PM   #494
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I loved the film but I left the cinema with the sort of unsettled, queasy feeling you get after a one-night stand.

I usually feel pretty good and have a drink after a one night stand, what are you doing wrong?
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I still don't understand why some people insist that Inception would have been a better movie if it had looked a little more like What Dreams May Come.
So long as you're making a movie about dreams, why not cut loose and explore the limits of what you can do visually if you're not constrained by any expectations of reality? Why does a movie set entirely in dreams insist on being so literal minded and so damn logical? While it's better than most heist movies out there, it feels like it could have been so much more. Why are the dreams of Inception less vivid & imaginative than the realities of Avatar or Star Wars? While Nolan's gritty realism was a refreshing new take when he did Batman Begins, I'm starting to think that gray urban landscapes are all he can do.
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