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Old July 26 2010, 04:02 PM   #1
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AVENGERS - movie Discussion, News, Interviews, Pics till release 2012

This thread is to be inclusive discussion about all things AVENGERS going forward. Coming out of Comic-Con 2010 our AVENGERS have been set. Talk about just Joss's involvement is fine in the other thread. This if for talk about evolving develompent of the film and the cast as a whole going forward.

AVENGERS

This teaser essentially led up to the first logo for The Avengers, and after it ended, Jackson was introduced and he brings out Clark Gregg, Scarlett Johansson as Black Widow, Chris Hemsworth as Thor, Chris Evans as Captain America... and then Robert Downey Jr. came out as Tony Stark and the crowd went crazy. Downey Jr. then talked about how people were saying how Inception was the most ambitious movie ever made, but Downey said that bringing together all of these heroes for The Avengers was the most ambitious movie. He then introduced and confirmed that playing Clint Barton is.... Jeremy Renner... and "reprising his role as Bruce Banner... Mark Ruffalo!" He then brought out director Joss Whedon, who said that he had always had a dream, presumably about directing The Avengers, "but my dream was never this good!"
We may add more to this article soon, since there was some cool stuff said on the various panels, but just to quickly recap, we got the first teaser for Captain America as well as some of the footage they shot in the first week, an extended bit of footage from Thor, a teaser for The Avengers, essentially just the logo with a Samuel L. Jackson voice-over, and then they brought out the entire cast and director of The Avengers, including all of the actors already introduced and adding Jeremy Renner and Mark Ruffalo as Clint Barton/Hawkeye and the new Bruce Banner/The Hulk
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Old July 26 2010, 06:12 PM   #2
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Take heart, Hermiod.

Entertainment Weekly's columnist wants more women in this film, and Ms. Marvel tops his wish list:

http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/07/26/av...-mark-ruffalo/
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Old July 26 2010, 06:27 PM   #3
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Old July 26 2010, 09:54 PM   #4
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Take heart, Hermiod.

Entertainment Weekly's columnist wants more women in this film, and Ms. Marvel tops his wish list:

http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/07/26/av...-mark-ruffalo/
My preference would be for a non-powered Carol Danvers first. Introduce her in Avengers as Fury's second-in-command (taking a cue from the Ultimate line), which would be a bit role than would then take on an expanded significance in the S.H.I.E.L.D. movie Jackson is supposedly signed up to do. In the final act of the S.H.I.E.L.D. film, she gains her powers, which sets her up for a spin-off of her own and participation in Avengers 2.

For this Avengers, I'm still hoping for the Wasp.

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Old July 27 2010, 01:02 AM   #5
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When the film comes out, star billing onscreen should be conveniently alphabetical:

The first three are obvious, because they topline their own films:
Downey Jr.
Evans
Hemsworth

Johansson next.

Renner next (he's relatively unknown, BTW)

"and Mark Ruffalo" next

Not sure where I would put Samuel L. Jackson's name. Perhaps before Ruffalo.

Clark Gregg (Agent Coulson) can go next among a list of other supporting players.

This, of course, covers only the cast members known today.
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Old July 27 2010, 01:05 AM   #6
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"With Samuel L Jackson" most likely. It carries the same weight as the "And"
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Old July 27 2010, 02:13 AM   #7
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You could do everything alphabetical and then have the AND out of alphabetical order. But Jackson seems to think Avengers is his show, which would mean top billing.
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Old July 27 2010, 07:13 AM   #8
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if they add another fefmale character, i'd like Hawkeye's love interest Mockingbird.
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Old July 27 2010, 12:26 PM   #9
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Spooky, my first thought was that there is only one woman. Ms Marvel would be at the top of my list too, although Mockingbird would be a good low budget alternative since she has links to SHIELD and requires no special effects to implement apart from some wire work for pole vaulting. It may be that Wasp and Ant Man will be making appearances in a sequel. Vision would be really cool too.

I admit, I was never a fan of the Avengers. You put Thor or Hulk next to Hawkeye, the power imbalance is just dopey, although if they 'power down' the movie version of Thor this may improve things. The X-Men seemed to have a better grip on this sort of thing. Still, Iron Man was great and I'm a fan of Cap so I'm looking forwad to this movie.
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Old July 27 2010, 12:46 PM   #10
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I admit, I was never a fan of the Avengers. You put Thor or Hulk next to Hawkeye, the power imbalance is just dopey, although if they 'power down' the movie version of Thor this may improve things.
You don't need to 'power down' anyone. Black Widow and Hawkeye and that are utilised when you don't want the attention of huge dudes swinging their fists, hammers, shields, and repulsor rays all over the place.
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Old July 27 2010, 01:09 PM   #11
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I admit, I was never a fan of the Avengers. You put Thor or Hulk next to Hawkeye, the power imbalance is just dopey, although if they 'power down' the movie version of Thor this may improve things.
You don't need to 'power down' anyone. Black Widow and Hawkeye and that are utilised when you don't want the attention of huge dudes swinging their fists, hammers, shields, and repulsor rays all over the place.
True. Although that does polarise the situations in which the characters can be useful (I mean Thor can fly, is as strong as the Hulk, can fight really well, and can control the weather). I'm not sure how restrictive that will be in a movie format. Still, Cyclops ended up being neutered in X-men in order to focus on fisticuffs so I suppose they will write in situations that will allow the lower-powered characters to show off their skills.

One of the reasons I like the Captain America comic is that it can showcase the lower powered characters like Cap, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Falcon, Nomad, Demolition Man, Diamondback etc. Sort of Batman level characters with the gimmicks spread across more characters.
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Old July 27 2010, 01:19 PM   #12
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As much as I would love to see Ms. Marvel in this movie, I would be very disappointed if she was only added because people complained about gender imbalance. Put her in the movie because she's a cool character, not to fill a quota. Keep your affirmative action out of my movies!

As for Widow and Hawkeye being in the same team as Thor - The Ultimates did this best. Widow and Hawkeye were in the less 'public' team, doing the quiet jobs that needed a bit more subtlety than is possible if you send in the bloody God of Thunder or a guy in a heavily armed suit of mechanised armour.
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Old July 27 2010, 02:53 PM   #13
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As much as I would love to see Ms. Marvel in this movie, I would be very disappointed if she was only added because people complained about gender imbalance. Put her in the movie because she's a cool character, not to fill a quota. Keep your affirmative action out of my movies!
What, you don't think it's important to argue for representation in the media?

I'm not expecting to see much more in the way of team-members, though; the cast is pretty big as it stands, and then you need villain(s), etc.

Mockingbird would probably be the easiest of the notable recent female Avengers to introduce, since, like Hawkeye (the only notable new addition in the film itself, from the looks of it), she can be explained in about ten seconds. Wasp doesn't make sense without Ant-Man, and we know he's not in it; She-Hulk and Ms. Marvel likewise have origins that would require a decent bit of time to explain properly; if they even have access to Scarlet Witch, they certainly don't to her backstory.
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Wait a minute. How do we know that Hanks not in it? Isn't the script still in progress? And wouldn't he be the perfect character type for a Joss Whedon directed film anyways?
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Wait a minute. How do we know that Hanks not in it? Isn't the script still in progress? And wouldn't he be the perfect character type for a Joss Whedon directed film anyways?
Whedon was asked about the rumour of Fillion playing Ant-Man and Whedon said that Ant-Man wasn't in it.
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