A Hater Revisits nuWho - Page 37

Bones · July 18 2010, 09:16 PM

Kibbin wrote:

USS Bones wrote:

Better still, I didn't notice the silly screwdriver once. Saves me adding to the list; it's starting to get longer than the actual reviews.

He brandishes it like a weapon at the start, to ward of the Ood, I think.

Oof, did he? I wasn't paying enough attention then. That's embarrassing.

Kibbin wrote:

I hated that bit, though I generally liked the episode and this review, might have to read some more

Yeah, please do. They're very good.

Kibbin · July 18 2010, 09:54 PM

USS Bones wrote:

Oof, did he? I wasn't paying enough attention then. That's embarrassing.

I think that was where I noticed that they were pulling the sonic out a bit too much, for a few too many things. I defo, wouldn't say no to the doctor loosing it for a few seasons. Thankfully they do seem to have got rid of the pyschic paper. One of my fav, moments was in the otherwise dire farting aliens two parter, where Eccelston took charge of the troops by simply shouting and acting like he knew what he was doing rather than pulling any psychic paper out on them.

Starkers · July 19 2010, 12:38 PM

Tennant does something similar in The Idiots Lantern as I recall. I like that, like him just assuming control without need to explain that he's the Pope or whatever!

Steve Mollmann · July 19 2010, 01:56 PM

Though later in The Idiot's Lantern, he flashes the psychic paper at the guard at the television tower, which reports that he is the King of Belgium. Which is probably my favorite psychic paper gag.

Starkers · July 20 2010, 09:53 AM

^Ha ha, that was quite funny actually.

I actually like the phychic paper and I don't mind the sonic screwdriver, I just think it's used too often for really mundane things.

Bones · July 20 2010, 09:44 PM

^
I don't mind as much when it's used for mundane things. If a door needs opening, I suppose that's fair enough (though as Bidmead said, "if getting through the door is boring, let's not have it"). It's whenever it does whatever stupid thing the plot requires with the press of its only button that it gets on my tits. It's a device for lazy writers.

Steve Mollmann · July 21 2010, 04:35 AM

The problem with Bidmead's statement is that sometimes getting through the door is boring... but there still needs to be a door, unless you think most villains don't lock people out/precious objects up.

Kibbin · July 21 2010, 09:14 AM

I think it was RTD who said that the screwdriver was there to get him through doors, because you didn't want a door to stop him, it just couldn't fix the plot and save the world.

Starkers · July 21 2010, 10:04 AM

The toruble is you then have to invent the ludicrous deadlock seal(tm) to stop him if needs be

I have less problem with opening doors then locking them, sometimes the key in the door is just easier!

David cgc · July 21 2010, 02:01 PM

Starkers wrote:

The toruble is you then have to invent the ludicrous deadlock seal(tm) to stop him if needs be

The first time I saw "Genesis of the Daleks," I genuinely remembered the Doctor saying the door to their cell on Skarro had a Deadlock Seal when he couldn't crack it with the screwdriver. On a rewatch, I realized it was the much more prosaic, "Not even the sonic screwdriver can get through this door."

Bones · July 21 2010, 05:53 PM

Steve Mollmann wrote:

The problem with Bidmead's statement is that sometimes getting through the door is boring... but there still needs to be a door, unless you think most villains don't lock people out/precious objects up.

If getting through the door is boring, let's not have it.

Teehee, that one interview is a mine of hilarious quotes.

"You don't need stuff that you don't need."

jbny67 · July 22 2010, 12:20 AM

David cgc wrote:

Starkers wrote:

The toruble is you then have to invent the ludicrous deadlock seal(tm) to stop him if needs be

The first time I saw "Genesis of the Daleks," I genuinely remembered the Doctor saying the door to their cell on Skarro had a Deadlock Seal when he couldn't crack it with the screwdriver. On a rewatch, I realized it was the much more prosaic, "Not even the sonic screwdriver can get through this door."

Actually, the line was "Not even the sonic screwdriver can get me out of this one."

The · July 22 2010, 02:03 AM

Wasn't that Invasion of Time?

DWF · July 22 2010, 02:48 AM

The wrote:

Wasn't that Invasion of Time?

The line is from The Invasion Of Time but the screewdriver couldn't open the door in Genesis either.

Steve Mollmann · July 22 2010, 03:11 AM

The other one I remember is from The Keeper of Traken where it doesn't work on a seemingly ordinary jail cell, and the Doctor comments, "New technology dates so quickly these days."

July 19 2010, 12:38 PM	#543
Starkers Admiral Location: Behind enemy lines...	Re: A Hater Revisits nuWho Tennant does something similar in The Idiots Lantern as I recall. I like that, like him just assuming control without need to explain that he's the Pope or whatever! __________________ Werewolves on the Moon Now with Star Trek Into Darkness review The Devils of Amber Street

July 19 2010, 01:56 PM	#544
Steve Mollmann Rear Admiral Location: 2010	Re: A Hater Revisits nuWho Though later in The Idiot's Lantern, he flashes the psychic paper at the guard at the television tower, which reports that he is the King of Belgium. Which is probably my favorite psychic paper gag. __________________ "All of time and space. Everywhere and anywhere, every star that ever was. Where do you want to start?" Exploring the Universe

July 20 2010, 09:53 AM	#545
Starkers Admiral Location: Behind enemy lines...	Re: A Hater Revisits nuWho ^Ha ha, that was quite funny actually. I actually like the phychic paper and I don't mind the sonic screwdriver, I just think it's used too often for really mundane things. __________________ Werewolves on the Moon Now with Star Trek Into Darkness review The Devils of Amber Street

July 20 2010, 09:44 PM	#546
Bones Commodore Location: Blighty, guv.	Re: A Hater Revisits nuWho ^ I don't mind as much when it's used for mundane things. If a door needs opening, I suppose that's fair enough (though as Bidmead said, "if getting through the door is boring, let's not have it"). It's whenever it does whatever stupid thing the plot requires with the press of its only button that it gets on my tits. It's a device for lazy writers. __________________ I keep getting banned. If it happens again to the point of no return (and you miss me so much that you're off your food), I can still be found among the cool dudes of the Anorak Zone: http://anorakzoneforum.informe.com/forum/ It's No Gahy Test.

July 21 2010, 04:35 AM	#547
Steve Mollmann Rear Admiral Location: 2010	Re: A Hater Revisits nuWho The problem with Bidmead's statement is that sometimes getting through the door is boring... but there still needs to be a door, unless you think most villains don't lock people out/precious objects up. __________________ "All of time and space. Everywhere and anywhere, every star that ever was. Where do you want to start?" Exploring the Universe

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July 21 2010, 09:14 AM	#548
Kibbin Fleet Captain Location: Nobody here.......	Re: A Hater Revisits nuWho I think it was RTD who said that the screwdriver was there to get him through doors, because you didn't want a door to stop him, it just couldn't fix the plot and save the world. __________________ "Insert something witty"

July 21 2010, 10:04 AM	#549
Starkers Admiral Location: Behind enemy lines...	Re: A Hater Revisits nuWho The toruble is you then have to invent the ludicrous deadlock seal(tm) to stop him if needs be I have less problem with opening doors then locking them, sometimes the key in the door is just easier! __________________ Werewolves on the Moon Now with Star Trek Into Darkness review The Devils of Amber Street

July 22 2010, 02:03 AM	#553
The Rear Admiral Location: Tomorrow	Re: A Hater Revisits nuWho Wasn't that Invasion of Time? __________________ "Censorship is telling a man he can’t have a steak just because a baby can’t chew it." - Mark Twain

July 22 2010, 03:11 AM	#555
Steve Mollmann Rear Admiral Location: 2010	Re: A Hater Revisits nuWho The other one I remember is from The Keeper of Traken where it doesn't work on a seemingly ordinary jail cell, and the Doctor comments, "New technology dates so quickly these days." __________________ "All of time and space. Everywhere and anywhere, every star that ever was. Where do you want to start?" Exploring the Universe