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Old July 12 2010, 02:36 PM   #31
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Re: Watching Farscape Season 1.

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On this board particularly, I've always read such positive things about the show, but it's not grabbing me yet at all.
Another thing you'll read on this board is that it really doesn't start getting good until the last 4 episodes of Season 1. The beginning of the season is okay, but it's the end of the season when it really finds its footing.
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Old July 12 2010, 03:01 PM   #32
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Another thing you'll read on this board is that it really doesn't start getting good until the last 4 episodes of Season 1. The beginning of the season is okay, but it's the end of the season when it really finds its footing.
Which is better than Star Trek, cause they usually did not get very good until season 3.
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Old July 12 2010, 06:14 PM   #33
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Re: Watching Farscape Season 1.

You know, I don't understand all the negative comments about season 1. For me, this is one of those shows that was good right out of the gate. I can understand everybody liking what came later, all that was good too, but the smaller, less complicated "bottle" shows of season one were the series at it's best.
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Old July 12 2010, 07:11 PM   #34
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You know, I don't understand all the negative comments about season 1. For me, this is one of those shows that was good right out of the gate. I can understand everybody liking what came later, all that was good too, but the smaller, less complicated "bottle" shows of season one were the series at it's best.
Season 1 was a very good beginning. Unlike post TNG, They had a complete universe to create. So they had to do a lot of bottle shows to setup that universe.
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Old July 12 2010, 07:13 PM   #35
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Re: Watching Farscape Season 1.

I enjoy just about all of Season 1, but I can understand some people not really getting it right away. I was introduced to the show at the end of Season 2, so when I went back and watched Season 1, I was already familiar with the characters.
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Old July 12 2010, 08:14 PM   #36
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I actually began watching Farscape on TV at the beginning of season 2. Therefore, I only watched season 1 after being hooked by season 2.

I love Farscape in its entirety. I never tire of seeing it, except for the bounty hunters in season 1. For some odd reason I don't much care for that one.

Farscape in my book managed to be groundbreaking sci-fi while poking fun at itself and other shows.

Humor and space opera, the perfect marriage of two of my favorite things.
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Old July 12 2010, 08:34 PM   #37
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I actually began watching Farscape on TV at the beginning of season 2. Therefore, I only watched season 1 after being hooked by season 2.

I love Farscape in its entirety. I never tire of seeing it, except for the bounty hunters in season 1. For some odd reason I don't much care for that one.

Farscape in my book managed to be groundbreaking sci-fi while poking fun at itself and other shows.

Humor and space opera, the perfect marriage of two of my favorite things.
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Old July 13 2010, 05:44 PM   #38
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I love the av! It cracks me up. I have not seen the 3rd one yet.

I think my love for Farscape grew as John got nuttier and started flowing with it.

John and 1812 - priceless!
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Old July 13 2010, 05:48 PM   #39
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I love the av! It cracks me up. I have not seen the 3rd one yet.
Ooh, you need to. It's fantastic.
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Old July 13 2010, 09:39 PM   #40
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Re: Watching Farscape Season 1.

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On this board particularly, I've always read such positive things about the show, but it's not grabbing me yet at all.
Another thing you'll read on this board is that it really doesn't start getting good until the last 4 episodes of Season 1. The beginning of the season is okay, but it's the end of the season when it really finds its footing.
Like others on this board, I thought Farscape was great from Day 1. I think the reason why Season 1 doesn't grab people right away is that it can take a little getting used to. The Muppets give some the (very mistaken) impression that it's a kid's show, but then you have nudity and (PG-13 rated) sex scenes. You have episodes that are deadly serious mixed in with comedies -- and many episodes combine the two. If you're only used to things like BSG that was generally black or white in terms of its style, of course it will be an acquired taste. And not every episode is a gem, as is the case with every series without exception. In the case of Farscape, season 1 has the infamous "Jeremiah Crichton" episode which is generally considered the show's nadir - to the point where the cast and crew commentary for the episode is spent poking fun at it. Personally, I thought the episode was fine and I have my own personal choice for "worst" FS episode.

There's also the fact the show is formatted to be a slow build. Not everything is resolved in season 1, and in fact if you were to jump into Season 4 you'd go "Uh, but, I thought ..." probably every 5 minutes. Things change, sometimes rapidly, sometimes so gradually you might actually need to go back and watch a past episode. Interestingly, all that I've written in this paragraph has also been told to me regarding Lost, which is an example of a series that didn't keep my attention through the first season, but I want to go back and check it out now it's done.

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Old July 20 2010, 05:30 PM   #41
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Keepin' the thread alive, my own viewing of Farscape has taken me into the home stretch - I've just started the final 6 episodes of Season 4. Fascinating stuff! I won't go into spoilers out of respect to the OP who was just starting Season 1 not long ago, except I think you will indeed find the Farscape of late season 4 almost unrecognizable from the first year.

Season 4 - again avoiding spoilers - is interesting because it's full of experimentation, both in terms of format and the characters. I think part of this is due to the fact it was made with the assumption (thanks to a promise made by Sci-Fi) that the show would return for Season 5, and that Season 5 was going to be the finale. So they played around with a few things that they probably wouldn't have had they known the show was going to end.

When you do get to the final season, I really have to recommend the deleted scenes from the episode "A Constellation of Doubt", which was the final episode filmed (but not the last to air). The very last scene filmed for the series has John making comments about "German backers" which, for people who know the background related to Farscape's cancellation, must have been written in response. If not, it was a heck of a coincidence.

I'm depressed that I only have about 6 eps to go, plus the mini-series.

And if you think it's hard avoiding spoilers for stuff like Doctor Who and Lost, it's doubly hard avoiding spoilers for a show like Farscape that's been gone 7 arns, er, years. I mean, I already know mostly what happens in the final episode, but there's lots of character bits and in-between plots that I've managed to avoid, so this really is a new show for me. And based on having watching virtually the whole thing over the last 2 months, I'd have no hesitation recommending it. It's on par with nuBSG in terms of recent serialized SF, and I'd even push it ahead of BSG based on the fact the show never really lost momentum with me (a few off episodes notwithstanding, but all series have those), unlike BSG which had a pretty severe seventh inning slump that actually made me lose interest in it for a while. Also, I feel Farscape successfully varied itself in terms of its tone, easily moving between black seriousness and light comedy, unlike BSG which handled the darkness extremely well, but rarely moved into the light. With Farscape you really didn't have any idea which way the show would head from one week to the next - serious or light, often within the same episode.

PS. I'm not intending to turn this into a Farscape vs BSG thread. I chose to make the comparison because both were long-term serials, both were ship-based series, and both had the underlying premise of a quest to find Earth while avoiding bad guys. And both have lead characters (Crichton/Adama) who as the series progresses go more and more off the rails. Yeah, that's a little spoiler, but I think I can get away with it! It's how Crichton gets there and what he does when he's there that's the cool part that you'll discover as the show goes on.

Oh, and both shows featured Kent McCord, too, though I think even the most rabid BSG fan will concede that Farscape is a superior show to Galactica 1980!

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Old July 20 2010, 06:28 PM   #42
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Granny creeped me out, but I think I loved every other Farscape character. That is rare for me. I usually pick at least one character to loathe with a white hot passion, but I liked all of the Farscape characters, flaws and all.
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Old July 20 2010, 11:45 PM   #43
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Kosh Naranek wrote: View Post
Granny creeped me out, but I think I loved every other Farscape character. That is rare for me. I usually pick at least one character to loathe with a white hot passion, but I liked all of the Farscape characters, flaws and all.
Agreed. Farscape was that rare show where all of the characters were interesting to one degree or another. Not a useless one in the bunch.

And the way they introduced Granny was great.

"Who is that woman?" No big introduction, she's just there.
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Old July 23 2010, 09:23 PM   #44
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Well 23eskido. Did you finish Farscape and The Peacekeeper Wars mini series ? What is your review about Farscape universe and its adventures in general ?

What about OP ?
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