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Old June 10 2010, 03:21 AM   #16
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Re: TNG remastered in HD? It CAN be done.

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This isn't like TOS, which only had three seasons to work with. TNG had seven. It would take years to remaster the whole thing for HD. I highly doubt this would bring in more profit than they'd spend on doing it.
I dunno, TNG DVD sets sell pretty well. I'm sure someone is crunching the numbers on it.
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Old June 10 2010, 03:28 AM   #17
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Remember, all special effects would have to be redone from scratch. That, coupled with re-editing the existing film elements, all adds up to a TON of money.
I don't think all the effects would have to be redone from scratch, unless they wanted to create entirely new effects. Since many of the effects used film elements, these could simply be recomposited rather than recreated from scratch.
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Old June 10 2010, 03:39 AM   #18
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Re: TNG remastered in HD? It CAN be done.

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This isn't like TOS, which only had three seasons to work with. TNG had seven. It would take years to remaster the whole thing for HD. I highly doubt this would bring in more profit than they'd spend on doing it.
I dunno, TNG DVD sets sell pretty well.
Still?

I'm sure someone is crunching the numbers on it.
Remastering seven seasons' worth of episodes would cost millions. Would the resulting revenue (from things like Blu-Ray releases) bring in enough to cover that? I'm not optimistic...

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many of the effects used film elements, these could simply be recomposited rather than recreated from scratch.
Really? I thought all effects for TNG (and DS9 and VOY) were done on videotape only.
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Old June 10 2010, 04:33 AM   #19
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Re: TNG remastered in HD? It CAN be done.

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many of the effects used film elements, these could simply be recomposited rather than recreated from scratch.
Really? I thought all effects for TNG (and DS9 and VOY) were done on videotape only.
The actual FX shots, like filming the models and such would have been done on film, but then composited and edited on tape. The original FX shots likely still exist on film, but would have to be put back together in a higher resolution format. This is discussed upthread; it can be done, it's just a cost/benefit issue at this point.
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Old June 10 2010, 04:59 PM   #20
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There may not be a market for new films...but I can imagine a big ad campaign pushing the newly remastered, new FX STNG! Yes, ST fans WILLL buy them and watch them in syndication. If they sell it to a network they could make HUNDREDs of MILLIONS. If it costs $ 50 million to "remaster" and they make $300-400 million out of it (as ST shows have before) I'd say its a pretty good deal. So YES there is a way to make money from old STNG!

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Old June 10 2010, 05:30 PM   #21
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Re: TNG remastered in HD? It CAN be done.

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Remember, all special effects would have to be redone from scratch. That, coupled with re-editing the existing film elements, all adds up to a TON of money.
I don't think all the effects would have to be redone from scratch, unless they wanted to create entirely new effects. Since many of the effects used film elements, these could simply be recomposited rather than recreated from scratch.
Which I presume they did in Generations when using the two or three TV stock shots on the big screen (specifically an Enterprise overhead flyby shot and the beginning of the saucer separation sequence, both of which were originally filmed back in 1987 for "Encounter at Farpoint.")
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Old June 10 2010, 06:19 PM   #22
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They could try it out with "Best of Both Worlds" 1 and 2 as a special Blu-Ray release. I would buy that.
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Old June 10 2010, 06:41 PM   #23
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They could try it out with "Best of Both Worlds" 1 and 2 as a special Blu-Ray release. I would buy that.
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similar to the idea of Star Trek TOS "The Menagerie" being in cinemas in 2007 for two nights would you be willing to pay to see "Encounter at Farpoint" (pilot) in cinemas after a HD restoration with new visual effects?

CBS Home Entertainment could guage fan interest in a TNG-R by doing a limited engagement cinema screening of 2 or 3 days which the tickets would help pay for a TNG-R of the best episodes for a Blu-ray release.

Which would you rather see in the cinema if you had a choice of only these two episodes for TNG-R:
"Encounter at Farpoint" (pilot)
"The Best of Both Worlds" (part 1&2)

also see this thread:
Best of Both Worlds Remastered ; Battle of Wolf 359 shown..
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Old June 10 2010, 07:37 PM   #24
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They could try it out with "Best of Both Worlds" 1 and 2 as a special Blu-Ray release. I would buy that.
I suggested:
jefferiestubes8 wrote: View Post
similar to the idea of Star Trek TOS "The Menagerie" being in cinemas in 2007 for two nights would you be willing to pay to see "Encounter at Farpoint" (pilot) in cinemas after a HD restoration with new visual effects?

CBS Home Entertainment could guage fan interest in a TNG-R by doing a limited engagement cinema screening of 2 or 3 days which the tickets would help pay for a TNG-R of the best episodes for a Blu-ray release.

Which would you rather see in the cinema if you had a choice of only these two episodes for TNG-R:
"Encounter at Farpoint" (pilot)
"The Best of Both Worlds" (part 1&2)

also see this thread:
Best of Both Worlds Remastered ; Battle of Wolf 359 shown..

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Old June 11 2010, 09:10 AM   #25
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Old June 12 2010, 04:36 AM   #26
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Re: TNG remastered in HD? It CAN be done.

If there was enough change and added/improved content, I would be happy to pay to see BOBW theatrically.
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Old June 12 2010, 04:55 AM   #27
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I wouldn't want to see "Encounter at Farpoint" theatrically--it's just not that good of an episode. Better to go with a superior installment, like "The Best of Both Worlds" or "All Good Things..."
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Old June 12 2010, 06:04 AM   #28
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If there was enough change and added/improved content, I would be happy to pay to see BOBW theatrically.
Count me in! (assuming I had the money)

The real question isn't technical but "political".

CBS/Paramount are flogging "nu Trek" which is based on TOS, not TNG, et al. I'm thinking all their efforts are going down that road at this point.
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