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Old June 10 2010, 03:32 PM   #61
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Re: So what was the deal with Robert Beltran?

If he had been more involved and less whiny, I'm thinking his character wouldn't have turned out as meek as he ended up being.
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Old June 10 2010, 03:41 PM   #62
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If he had been more involved and less whiny, I'm thinking his character wouldn't have turned out as meek as he ended up being.
Sort of a "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em"?
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Old June 10 2010, 03:57 PM   #63
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If he had been more involved and less whiny, I'm thinking his character wouldn't have turned out as meek as he ended up being.
Sort of a "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em"?
More along the lines of... if you don't vote, don't complain about who is in political office.
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Old June 10 2010, 04:01 PM   #64
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If he had been more involved and less whiny, I'm thinking his character wouldn't have turned out as meek as he ended up being.
Sort of a "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em"?
More along the lines of... if you don't vote, don't complain about who is in political office.
Gotcha. And I agree.
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Old June 10 2010, 04:02 PM   #65
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Are we still talking about Beltran?


I still would.
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Old June 10 2010, 04:07 PM   #66
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We are. At least, I am.
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Old June 10 2010, 04:37 PM   #67
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Should we talk about his dimples now?
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Old June 10 2010, 04:40 PM   #68
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Which ones?
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Old June 10 2010, 04:47 PM   #69
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Which ones?
We have to choose?
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Old June 10 2010, 05:18 PM   #70
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These?
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I remember reading a comment Mulgrew made where she liked her time working on Voyager and "Out of a cast of 9, I've made 3 great friends."

I haven't really looked but apart from Wang, was there anyone else Mulgrew and/or the other cast didn't get along with?

Bob Picardo and Tim Russ are on that short list.

In fact, I believe that Bob Picardo is probably the closest to her.
i read somewhere that KM was closest to bob and ethan.

as for closeness of the crew, i've heard recently that the guys still try to get together every few months for dinner and have even gone to jeri's restaurant for the meal.
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Old June 11 2010, 07:34 PM   #72
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Even so long after the show ended, and every actor involved got on with the rest of their lives, we still have people picking over the fantasy emotional impact of what was a professional gig for a cast of professional actors. They aren't paid to like each other, you know. Few people are paid to like someone.
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Old June 11 2010, 08:07 PM   #73
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Even so long after the show ended, and every actor involved got on with the rest of their lives, we still have people picking over the fantasy emotional impact of what was a professional gig for a cast of professional actors. They aren't paid to like each other, you know. Few people are paid to like someone.
Indeed.... unless of course you're a prostitute or stripper, but that's a different subject I suppose.

I would have been pretty disappointed as well if I was him and given the character/show that I was. Sure it's just a job.... but it's also Star Trek.

It's supposed to be deep, involving.... people's characters are supposed to have some decent time on air to focus on them and their history..... sure in TOS and TNG there were some conflicts between actors at times, but you always hear about the great memories, favorite episodes, etc. In TOS, TNG and DS9, the stories and characters were deep on so many levels...... but Voyager just seemed to slap the Star Trek logo on the cover and blanket the series with the ST Technology and a fragment of what made the other seriesez great.... which was character development.

Action was just icing on the cake on top of the character development.... but Voyager seemed to focus more on action then substance.

Substance and episodes that make you think about things did exist on Voyager, don't get me wrong.... but it just wasn't there like it was for the other shows.

I still like Voyager.... but TNG and DS9 take the top ranks for me.
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Old June 12 2010, 02:17 AM   #74
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The problem with the character development is that it was focused on only a few characters. I think they all developed, but some *coughDoctorcoughSevencoughJanewaycough* got way more than others.

And with some *coughJanewaycough* it was inconsistent.
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Old June 12 2010, 02:19 AM   #75
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A big hell-to-the yes on that one, Valeris.
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