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Doctor Who "Bigger on the inside..."

View Poll Results: What's your verdict?
Excellent 100 63.29%
Good 45 28.48%
Average 4 2.53%
Meh 6 3.80%
I'd rather cut off my ear 3 1.90%
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Old June 6 2010, 07:13 AM   #76
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Re: 5x10 Vincent and the Doctor (Grading/Discussion) SPOILERS!!

Nah. We see the effects of changes in the show. If he didn't commit suicide originally, they wouldn't have known about it originally.
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Old June 6 2010, 07:17 AM   #77
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The whole scene where Van Gogh was painting the church and the Doctor was getting bored and antsy was hilarious. "Is this how time normally passes? Realllly slowly? In the right order?" His descriptions of watching Michelangelo and Picasso paint. When he jumped back into the room and yelled "Not that fast!", scaring the daylights out of Amy and Vincent. Amy scaring the daylights of him. Twice. I can't remember the last time I laughed out loud this many times in any one Doctor Who episode. I think this has to be one of my favorite episodes, ever.
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Old June 6 2010, 07:55 AM   #78
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Question, I've always heard van Gogh's name pronounced as 'go', is that pronunciation just an American thing?
I don't know. But I do know that I've heard the British laughing at the pronunciation (us being such great linguists and all... )

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The whole scene where Van Gogh was painting the church and the Doctor was getting bored and antsy was hilarious. "Is this how time normally passes? Realllly slowly? In the right order?"
I find 11 to be bloody hilarious. It's like seeing the Doctor in his youth in some ways, but with an empathy and wisdom that comes with age. I'm really very fond of him.
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Old June 6 2010, 09:00 AM   #79
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QI, a british quiz show, helpfully did a small segment on the pronunciation of Van Gogh. Suffice to say no one in the episode said it correctly either:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLTQv8RH1TE
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Old June 6 2010, 09:29 AM   #80
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Question, I've always heard van Gogh's name pronounced as 'go', is that pronunciation just an American thing?
Yes, mostly. Americans usually pronounce it "Van Go", in the UK you usually hear "Van Goff", which is what the Doctor was calling him, the French call him "Van Gog". The Bill Nighy character was pronouncing it correctly: [vɑɲˈʝɔç]
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Old June 6 2010, 12:12 PM   #81
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Having suffered from depression myself, the only doubt I have is whether taking Van Gogh to the present to see how highly regarded he is was a good idea. Self esteem building aside, if I were Van Gogh I doubt I would ever be able to paint again having heard the art critic (based on Brian Sewell?) praise my work. How could I live up to that - every brush stroke would have to be second guessed...
I hald expected there to be less paintings in the room when the Doctor and Amy returned to the museum at the end of the episode.


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Question, I've always heard van Gogh's name pronounced as 'go', is that pronunciation just an American thing?
I don't know. But I do know that I've heard the British laughing at the pronunciation (us being such great linguists and all... )
I've always heard it pronounced as van Goch (like the Scottish word Loch). Unfortunately, I can't read Mirrorball's phonetic spelling above to find out whether that's right.


Well, that was the first 'Excellent' of the season for me. I had tears in my eyes for the last 15 minutes. I thought the idea that no one except Vincent can see the alien, not even the Doctor, was great. Oh well, everything I would have wanted to say about the episode has already been said. It was moving, yet also humourous and entertaining.
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Old June 6 2010, 12:47 PM   #82
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poor CGI.
No. This one was really well done. Compare the Crafiys to Lazarus and see the astounding difference in quality.

Likening it to Primeval is frankly a joke.
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Old June 6 2010, 12:50 PM   #83
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That was a wonderful episode, and Tony Curran did a fabulous job as Van Gogh. He portrayed the mood swings of Van Gogh's depressions beautifully. I especially loved the scene of the three in the field watching the stars all holding hands with the other for their own private needs to one another. An excellent episode, I almost felt let down by how prosaic the next episode previews felt.
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Old June 6 2010, 01:26 PM   #84
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I won't say too much as I'll just be echoing whats been said already, but I quite enjoyed this and even my girlfriend sat down to watch it. I think Matt Smith has sold her on Doctor Who.
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Old June 6 2010, 01:34 PM   #85
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One question at the moment. What was the title of the song played when the Doctor brought Van Gogh forward into the present to see his paintings?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athlete_%28band%29

Chances by Athlete


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Old June 6 2010, 02:34 PM   #86
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Well, I had to take a walk after watching that one -- three hours, I ended up in Manhattan!

It has already been said in the thread -- the humor, the sadness, the acting; Van Gogh was so accurately manic-depressive! Certainly one of my all-time favorite Who episodes.
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Old June 6 2010, 02:48 PM   #87
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I thought that was just brilliant. The whole Van Gogh bit was just enthralling. The Doctor and Amy were great. What a sad story. I almost feel as if meeting the Doctor and Amy and the future that they showed him somehow contributed to his depression even further. Imagine how Vincent would have felt in the days and weeks and months after his incredible chance encounter with the Doctor and his beautiful assistant. He fought aliens and travelled in a Time Machine (which was impossibly bigger on the inside) and saw his work finally appreciated only to have to go back to being ridiculed, despised and lonely once again. Maybe his meeting with the Doctor had such a profound affect on him and after that he just couldn't bare to live such a mundane, unappreciated and lonely existence and he just wanted to be free.

Anyway loved the 1st and 2nd Doctor cameos. Loved the TARDIS becoming a 19th century bulletin board and it was great to see it burnt to shreads on re-entry (how did Captain Jack survive the trip).

All in all one of my favourite New Who stories ever.
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Old June 6 2010, 03:19 PM   #88
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Loved the TARDIS becoming a 19th century bulletin board and it was great to see it burnt to shreads on re-entry (how did Captain Jack survive the trip).
Jack can survive anything. Even listening to Dirk Bennedict.
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(how did Captain Jack survive the trip).
Well, technically he didn't, he was revived soon after the Doctor and Martha landed. But the guy's effectively immortal and in the same episode, we saw him unbothered by radiation that vaporized a poor fella.

And Jack's the only one in the show's history thus far to "survive" a trip in the time vortex unaided.
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Loved the TARDIS becoming a 19th century bulletin board and it was great to see it burnt to shreads on re-entry (how did Captain Jack survive the trip).
Jack can survive anything. Even listening to Dirk Bennedict.
Surely that would finish even Jack off?
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