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Doctor Who "Bigger on the inside..."

View Poll Results: What's your verdict?
Excellent 100 63.29%
Good 45 28.48%
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Meh 6 3.80%
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Old June 5 2010, 07:50 PM   #16
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Dang! No footnote!

The cracks. I bet it was the cracks.
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Old June 5 2010, 07:59 PM   #17
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I think that there will probably be a lot of people who write this one off as boring but I loved it. The alien of the week storyline really didn't matter a jot, it was just there as a framing device for a wonderful character piece with some absolutely top notch acting. I've been loving Matt Smith from the get go but this is the first time I've enjoyed Karen Gillan's performance so much. And as others have said Curran was wonderful.

Did Curtis pile it on a little thick there at the end? Absolutely! But if you didn't feel the slightest little wibble of your bottom lip during that scene you have a heart of stone.
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Old June 5 2010, 08:02 PM   #18
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There were so many wonderful moments in the episode. I really loved the moment when Vincent thanked Bill Nighy's character was wonderful for Nighy's reaction. Did he know who he had just met? It's a fabulously ambivilent moment for me.

I thought I'd got it all figured out at the beginning of the episode: oh, the monster will represent Van Gogh's madness, I thought. I'm so glad I was proved wrong. I don't really like "message tv" and Richard Curtis has pissed me off big time in the past for it, but I thought it was well done here.
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Old June 5 2010, 08:08 PM   #19
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There were so many wonderful moments in the episode. I really loved the moment when Vincent thanked Bill Nighy's character was wonderful for Nighy's reaction. Did he know who he had just met? It's a fabulously ambivilent moment for me.

I thought I'd got it all figured out at the beginning of the episode: oh, the monster will represent Van Gogh's madness, I thought. I'm so glad I was proved wrong. I don't really like "message tv" and Richard Curtis has pissed me off big time in the past for it, but I thought it was well done here.
Me too, and I don't think that "If you're effected by the issues raised in this episode" message at the end was part of laying it on thick with the message, either, it's just something PSB TV does with anything like that. I thought it was nice to actually have someone with mental illness not be portrayed as wacky, or very strange... especially in a family show.
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Old June 5 2010, 08:09 PM   #20
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Very strong episode. 10/10.

I even liked the cockatrice.
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Old June 5 2010, 08:13 PM   #21
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Think I need to re-watch it to decide on a grade but the more I think of it, the more I am leaning towards good/above average.
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Old June 5 2010, 08:25 PM   #22
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The more I think about it, the more I like the notion of madness including the ability to see very real things that no-one else can. Lots of interesting stuff on that as a definition of psychosis on the Royal College of Psychiatrists Spirituality group pages.
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Old June 5 2010, 08:27 PM   #23
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loved it. very well done.

apart from the visible wires on Matt!!!!
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Old June 5 2010, 08:44 PM   #24
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Loved it. I was worried at the start with Amys sudden, neccesary interest in art (keep this character trait, please) and the French speaking with westcountry accents, but it morphed into something much, much better. They didn't tone down madness or how those suffering are treated for the fact this is a kids show. They avoided making an invisible monster look stupid (very easy to do). The Doctor didn't instantly recognise the monster (I guess he's only a very-smart alien and not a lonely god after all). The Doctor being an art snob. 'If you're afraid of heights, get down from there!' Matt Smith seemed like the Doctor for the first time since 'Eleventh Hour'. Amy is mouring Rory and she doesn't even know it. Bill Nighy. A BBC show admitting that someone outside Britain has done something great. Killing a monster with an art easel. Realising the monster didn't need to die at all and wasn't actually a monster. The starry night turning into the Starry night. The ultimate Ginger.
Loved it.

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Old June 5 2010, 09:11 PM   #25
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Loved it. A quiet episode, but one that did an excellent character piece about van Gogh.

The monster in general was a weak part of the story, but I liked how they dealt with its death. I also liked seeing those little references to Rory, showing he hasn't been completely forgotten.

The best bit was by far the end. I always wanted them to take someone to the future, and at least van Gogh didn't try to disprove it or anything. He just took it all in, and the speech at the end by Bill Nighy's character was moving and brilliant. Was reminiscent of Father's Day and The Unquiet Dead, but something new as well. One of the best character pieces I have seen in nuWho.
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Old June 5 2010, 09:23 PM   #26
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That was a great episode! The invisible demon was a brilliant (and budget saving ) idea - a metaphor for Van Gogh's depression, presumably.

Having suffered from depression myself, the only doubt I have is whether taking Van Gogh to the present to see how highly regarded he is was a good idea. Self esteem building aside, if I were Van Gogh I doubt I would ever be able to paint again having heard the art critic (based on Brian Sewell?) praise my work. How could I live up to that - every brush stroke would have to be second guessed...
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Old June 5 2010, 09:24 PM   #27
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That was simply one of the best episodes of any TV drama I have ever seen! Cannot fault it at all.
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Old June 5 2010, 09:24 PM   #28
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who is voting this as excellent, this was dull, it was tideous, and the pay off whilst good, did not come close to making up for the Transformers style tedium that proceeded it.

They even went as far as to forget to add the monster, but even when it was inculded, it looked like a Primeval reject, im growing ever tried of this series, it makes dull episodes, and neither the Doctor nor Amy are that easy to like, just nothing specail about them, and poor CGI.
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Old June 5 2010, 09:28 PM   #29
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Honestly, think its the only episode of nuWho that I've been unbelievably BORED watching.
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Old June 5 2010, 09:34 PM   #30
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That was simply one of the best episodes of any TV drama I have ever seen! Cannot fault it at all.
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