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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

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Old May 24 2010, 03:14 PM   #31
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Re: Just watched Star Trek V - pros and cons

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As for the special effects, the only thing I remember groaning at was Spock's rocket-boots/green-screen thing. I don't recall anything else really drawing my attention.
I close my eyes on that one...
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Old May 24 2010, 03:16 PM   #32
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Go and get the Star Trek Magazine movies special, where I defend this as, well, the best TOS finale episode we could get...
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Old May 24 2010, 04:09 PM   #33
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Go and get the Star Trek Magazine movies special, where I defend this as, well, the best TOS finale episode we could get...
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Old May 24 2010, 05:45 PM   #34
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Go and get the Star Trek Magazine movies special, where I defend this as, well, the best TOS finale episode we could get...
I already read that, good work on that! I still feel Sybok was not evil and not a figure like Khan - he was just misguided and that's what made him absolutely fantastic as a character. Movie was still sub par.
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Old May 28 2010, 12:38 AM   #35
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Movie was still sub par.
Because of substandard FX or too many dumb funnies? Just curious.
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Old May 30 2010, 11:00 PM   #36
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I like that Sybok is getting some due here. He is, when you think about it, the best-motivated, most-nuanced antagonist a Trek film ever had. Every other villain, with the possible exception of Kruge, but especially Khan and Nero, is really just kind of an evil asshole. Sybok was different, in that you got that he was fundamentally a pretty good guy, which is why he was so dangerous--he was a fundamentally good guy who was fanatical about dangerous ideas.

In this regard, the film is probably the clearest statement of the Roddenberryesque view on religion. They found the Abrahamic God--and blew Him up. And Sybok suddenly becomes an actual good guy, just as soon as he accepts that his previously zealous faith was totally misplaced (or just flat-out wrong). Just as I think of TMP as "The Changeling's Better Second Draft," I think of TFF as "Who Mourns for Adonais, But Good."

And you know, even though I rather enjoy TOS, I'd still take TFF over any individual episode.

Edit: I will concede that the S/VFX are shit throughout, except I liked the effect used to create the Great Barrier.
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Old May 30 2010, 11:50 PM   #37
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I like that Sybok is getting some due here. He is, when you think about it, the best-motivated, most-nuanced antagonist a Trek film ever had.
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In this regard, the film is probably the clearest statement of the Roddenberryesque view on religion. They found the Abrahamic God--and blew Him up.
And you know, even though I rather enjoy TOS, I'd still take TFF over any individual episode.
My phaser is set to kill...

Edit: I will concede that the S/VFX are shit throughout, except I liked the effect used to create the Great Barrier.
The practical shuttle stuff was pretty good!
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Old May 31 2010, 12:06 AM   #38
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I just saw STV again for the first time in years yesterday (first time on DVD), and I loved it.

I agree it was the most TOS-like of the movies, by far.

The effects? I found them quaint. I'd hate to see a CG'd version. Painted model on a string for me any day! I loved the effect in the observation lounge, seeing the barrier slowly grow larger and larger. I hadn't noticed that before.

Sybok was great. Kirk, Spock and McCoy were great. The humor? OTT, but easily ignored. Scottyhura? Bad idea.

I never thought much about it before, but I really liked the Enterprise bridge in STV. After seeing VI a bit ago, it was nice someone turned the lights on in V.

Overall I think The Shat really got what Star Trek was about.
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Old May 31 2010, 02:18 AM   #39
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Scottyhura? Bad idea.
But easily ignored IMO.

Overall I think The Shat really got what Star Trek was about.
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Old May 31 2010, 06:01 AM   #40
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Question: How does a blue-bubbly-glowing-planet-thing have a purple sky?
The same reason why God needs a starship.
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Old June 2 2010, 01:13 AM   #41
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Excellent movie. The one that really feels like the series. I was surprised at how well Shatner knew these characters.
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Old June 2 2010, 01:16 AM   #42
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Uhura's fan dance [was] cringe worthy

Balls. She still had great legs, and it was entirely in keeping with ALL the TOS characters to use their sexuality as a weapon.
Plus we finally get a movie where Uhura sings again!
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Old June 2 2010, 03:53 AM   #43
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Excellent movie. The one that really feels like the series. I was surprised at how well Shatner knew these characters.
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Old June 2 2010, 04:57 AM   #44
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I like Star Trek V. It's no masterpiece, but I think it's fun in a TV-movie kind of way (disclaimer: I think Nemesis is great, too)

About the effects: Sha'Ka'Ree looked great from space. I didn't think the rest were too bad. A little weaker than normal, admittedly but hardly the worst ever.

STV was also the first Star Trek film I ever saw. As a kid I loved the horseriding phaser attack on Paradise City.

I must admit Spockhura works a billion trillion times better than Scottyhura. What were they thinking?
Well Nemesis is light years better....STV is just awful...nothing redeeming about it.

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Old June 2 2010, 05:02 AM   #45
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