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Old May 28 2010, 09:28 PM   #361
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Re: Where did Spock go?

How did Kirk J stay in Starfleet Academy with his attitude, and almost graduated in 3 years?
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Old May 29 2010, 09:31 PM   #362
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Re: Where did Spock go?

Same reason Nero was able to attack Vulcan without so much as a errant rock coming his way, BECAUSE EVERYONE IN THAT FRAKKING MOVIE IS AN UTTER MORON!!
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Old May 29 2010, 10:10 PM   #363
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There is much truth in that statement, Captain.
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Old May 29 2010, 11:14 PM   #364
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Without so much as an errant rock, besides the entire fleet Nero destroys before the Enterprise arrives, you mean?
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Old May 29 2010, 11:18 PM   #365
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Re: Where did Spock go?

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How did Kirk J stay in Starfleet Academy with his attitude, and almost graduated in 3 years?
Well we never actually see him during his normal course of studies. He could still have been the "stack of books with legs" that Gary Mitchell spoke of.

Sure, Kirk was an asshole when we first met him at the bar, but he could have swung completely around and gone all-out into his work when he was at the Academy.
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Old May 30 2010, 01:19 AM   #366
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Kirk is Kirk.
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Old May 30 2010, 02:57 AM   #367
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Hmm. I've always thought Shatner was Kirk.
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Old May 30 2010, 03:29 AM   #368
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How did Kirk J stay in Starfleet Academy with his attitude, and almost graduated in 3 years?
Well we never actually see him during his normal course of studies. He could still have been the "stack of books with legs" that Gary Mitchell spoke of.

Sure, Kirk was an asshole when we first met him at the bar, but he could have swung completely around and gone all-out into his work when he was at the Academy.
Yeah, the idea that Kirk is an asshole as a kid, entered the academy and asshole, exited the academy an asshole, spent his time being an asshole on board the Enterprise... but during the academy was conveniently a sweet nerd holding a stack of books. Said idea coming from movie/canon apologists trying to convince everyone, "No really, he's just canon Kirk, we just missed that part in the movie."

Aka, the asshole-saint-asshole-theory. Or even shorter, it's ass.

This coming from the same people claiming those who didn't like the movie are "canonistas".
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Old May 30 2010, 04:17 AM   #369
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I didn't like the movie Kirk. He was indeed an asshole and I can't see that Kirk becoming our Kirk.

But since it's reboot Trek, it doesn't matter. The characters can differ all they want. I can enjoy the story knowing that they're not the same characters as in the regular Trek world, but alternate Trek world characters.
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Old May 30 2010, 04:21 AM   #370
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I didn't like the movie Kirk. He was indeed an asshole and I can't see that Kirk becoming our Kirk.

But since it's reboot Trek, it doesn't matter. The characters can differ all they want. I can enjoy the story knowing that they're not the same characters as in the regular Trek world, but alternate Trek world characters.
And this is the essence of it: it's a reboot. nuKirk is a reinterpretation and not an extrapolation of TOS Kirk.

Again the film is rewriting everything so it boggles the mind that some folks insist that it's in addition to what came before rather than a rewrite of what came before.
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Old May 30 2010, 04:26 AM   #371
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I think the spirit of TOS is what makes this movie so good. There's a lot of inconsistencies with the 09 film but there's a lot of inconsistencies with the TOS series. That doesn't make either any less liked by me.
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Old May 30 2010, 05:13 AM   #372
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I think the spirit of TOS is what makes this movie so good.
Then we definately have a different interpretation of TOS' essence because from what I saw I didn't recognize one sliver of commonality between TOS and Abrams' crapfest.
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Old May 30 2010, 07:24 AM   #373
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I didn't recognize one sliver of commonality between TOS and Abrams' crapfest.
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Old May 30 2010, 10:09 AM   #374
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he's not using that much hyperbole, though
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Old May 30 2010, 01:30 PM   #375
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