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Old May 29 2010, 12:03 AM   #61
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Betelgeuse is, of course, a real star, Alpha Orionis, whose name was given it by medieval Arab astronomers quite a few centuries before Douglas Adams (or Tim Burton) was born.
What has Tim Burton got to do with Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy?
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Old May 29 2010, 12:23 AM   #62
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Tim Burton directed a movie called Beetlejuice in the '80s.
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Old May 29 2010, 12:55 AM   #63
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Tim Burton directed a movie called Beetlejuice in the '80s.
Which was a pun, because the character's name was actually spelled in-story as Betelgeuse.
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Old May 29 2010, 02:21 AM   #64
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DS9
The post-Finale Deep Space Nine literature has the most intricate and complex continuity of all the Trek novel lines. To acommodate this, the core-novels will be listed as either part of the "Primary Core Continuity" or the "Secondary Core Continuity." The "Primary core continuity" is the "main" DS9 story, and the "secondary core continuity" are books and stories that aren't a part of the main story, but were released with deliberate connections to it.

Primary Core Continuity
  • Avatar book one by S.D. Perry
  • Avatar book two by S.D. Perry
  • Section 31: Rogue by Jeffrey Weddle and Jeffrey Lang
  • Gateways book four: Demons of Air and Darkness and the novella "Horn and Ivory" in Gateways book seven: What Lay Beyond by Keith R.A. DeCandido
Mission Gamma
  • Twilight by David R. George III
  • This Gray Spirit by Heather Jarman
  • Cathedral by Michael A. Martin and Andy Mangels
  • Lesser Evil by Robert Simpson
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  • Rising Son by S.D. Perry
  • Unity by S.D. Perry
Worlds of Deep Space Nine
Volume One--
  • Cardassia by Una McCormack
  • Andor by Heather Jarman
Volume Two--
  • Trill by Michael A. Martin and Andy Mangels
  • Bajor by J. Noah Kim
Volume Three--
  • Ferenginar by Keith R. A. DeCandido
  • The Dominion by David R. George III
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  • Warpath by David Mack
  • Fearful Symmetry by Olivia Woods
  • The Soul Key by Olivia Woods
  • Typhon Pact: Rough Beasts of Empire by David R. George III
Secondary Core Continuity
Novels
  • The Left Hand of Destiny book one by J.G. Hertzler and Jeffrey Lang
  • The Left Hand of Destiny book two by J.G. Hertzler and Jeffrey Lang
  • Hollow Men by Una McCormack
  • The Never-Ending Sacrifice by Una McCormack
Terok Nor
  • Day of the Vipers by James Swallow
  • Night of the Wolves by S.D. Perry and Britta Dennison
  • Dawn of the Eagles by S.D. Perry and Brtitta Dennison
Anthologies
The Lives of Dax -- While completely consistant with the post-finale fiction, the Audrid and Joran tales are of particular interest to the DS9 series as a whole. It should also noted that rhe charater T'Pau inthe Lela tale can not possibly be the T'Pau from TOS and ENT due to inconsistancies with her age.
  • Ezri: "Second star to the right...", by Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens
  • Lela: "First Steps", by Kristine Kathryn Rusch
  • Tobin: "Dead Man's Hand", by Jeffrey Lang
  • Emony: "Old Souls", by Michael Jan Friedman
  • Audrid: "Sins of the Mother", by S.D. Perry
  • Torias: "Infinity", by Susan Wright
  • Joran: "Allegro Ouroboros in D Minor", by S.D. Perry and Robert Simpson
  • Curzon: "The Music Between the Notes" by Steven Barnes
  • Jadzia: "Reflections", by L.A. Graf
  • Ezri: "... and straight on 'til morning", by Judith & Garfield Reeves-Stevens
Prophecy and Change
  • Introduction, by Terry J. Erdmann and Paula M. Block
  • "Revisited, Part One", by Anonymous
  • "Ha'mara", by Kevin G. Summers
  • "The Orb of Opportunity", by Michael A. Martin & Andy Mangels
  • "Broken Oaths", by Keith R.A. DeCandido
  • "... Loved I Not Honor More", by Christopher L. Bennett
  • "Three Sides to Every Story", by Terri Osborne
  • "The Devil You Know", by Heather Jarman
  • "Foundlings", by Jeffrey Lang
  • "Chiaroscuro", by Geoffrey Thorne
  • "Face Value", by Una McCormack
  • "The Calling", by Andrew J. Robinson
  • "Revisited, Part Two", by Anonymous
Christopher L. Bennett's annotations for "...Loved I Not Honor More"
http://home.fuse.net/ChristopherLBennett/Trekfiction.html#P&C

Tales of the Dominion War (various) ed. by Keith R.A. DeCandido

Tales from the Captain's Table "The Officer's Table" by Heather Jarman
Obsidian Alliances MU: "Saturns Children" by Sarah Shaw
Comics
  • N-Vector by K.W. Jeter
  • Divided We Fall by David Mack and John Ordover
  • Connected
  • Pre-"relaunch" DS9 novels whose events have been acknowledged in one of the "core continuities" and stories from other series that connect to the DS9 continuity.
Connected
  • TNG: Double Helix: Vectors by Dean Wesley Smith and Kathryn Kristine Rusch (Character referenced in Terok Nor: Dawn of the Eagles)
  • DS9: A Stitch in Time by Andrew J. Robinson (Referenced in Avatar. Established the post-holocaust Cardassian civilization and the Orallian Way)
  • SCE: Cold Fusion by Keith R. A. Decandido (Features Nog, takes place inbetween Avatar and Section 31: Rogue)
  • The Gateways series crossed over through the entire Trek lit line.
  • DS9: The 34th Rule by David R. George III (Referenced in Mission Gamma:Twilight)
  • The Brave and the Bold book two by Keith R.A. DeCandido (Features Kira and a cameo by Vaughn)
  • SCE: Malefictorm by Terri Osborne (Kira, Ro, Quark, Treir)
  • SCE: Lost Time by Ilsa J. Bick (Kira, Vaughn, Ro)
  • SCE: Wounds book one by Ilsa J. Bick (Bashir)
  • SCE: Wounds book two by Ilsa J. Bick (Bashir)
  • The Destiny trilogy by David Mack
  • A Singular Destiny by Keith R. A. DeCandido
  • Typhon Pact: Zero Sum Game by David Mack
Why is A Stitch in Time is just in the Connected section, instead of the Secondary continuity section? Especially since the Secondary continuity list includes The Lives of Dax (also published before Avatar), Terok Nor trilogy (heavily includes the Oralian Way, which was originally introduced in A Stitch in Time), and Prophecy and Change ("The Calling" is a sequel to ASIT)? Also, apart from being directly referenced in Avatar, ASIT established Garak's role in the post-Dominion Cardassia that was referenced in the later books, includingThe Never-Ending Sacrifice, and, from what I've heard (haven't read it yet), the Cardassian story in Worlds of Deep Space Nine?

Another thing, shouldn't Seeds of Dissent be 'connected' both to the Eugenics Wars books (which I believes it references) and - by the same principle you used to classify Places of Exile as related to VOY continuity - DS9 (even though his family name is never stated, it's obvious that the character called "Mace" is meant to be an alternate version of Darrah Mace from Terok Nor: Day of the Vipers; pretty much everyone else in the novella is a version of a character we already know, the age fits - he is described as an older Bajoran man, which he would be at the time when the novella takes place, and the novella and Day of the Vipers were both written by James Swallow)?
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Old May 29 2010, 02:39 AM   #65
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Re: Charting the Novel-verse

I think my rationale for putting A Stitch in Time in the "connected" section instead of a "primary" section is because it was written before the relaunch without the intent of connecting it to anything else (As was, as you say, The Lives of Dax). But you're right, I conceed this as an error on my part and should've made an exception for ASiT.

As for the rest, that's why I hope to make updates to this every so often.
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Old May 29 2010, 08:01 AM   #66
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Dawn of the Eagles by S.D. Perry and Brtitta Dennison
typo on Britta
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Old May 29 2010, 08:03 AM   #67
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More like Freudian slip on Britta
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Old May 29 2010, 09:06 AM   #68
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Bravo, Turtletrekker!

Next time you feel like adding to this, my annotations for Losing the Peace are here:
http://wleisner.wordpress.com/about/...ing-the-peace/

I also plan to re-post my lost annotations for Out of the Cocoon in time for the tpb release.
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hIs 24-hour edit period is up, so I added it.
And thank you as well. Also, thanks to you and Rosalind for indulging me with this project.

I actually missed quite a few annotations. I had notes with them, but must've accidently deleted them. Luckily, Memory Beta still has them.

I was 100% positive that I had seen annotations for The Art of the Impossible. Turned out I was thinking of KRAD's acknowledgements.

I've been remiss in not thanking Memory Beta and it's contributors. It made research and cross-reference a lot quicker and easier than keeping myself knee-deep in novels for hours at a time.
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Old May 29 2010, 09:38 AM   #69
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ADDENDUM ONE: AUTHOR'S ANNOTATIONS
Annotations not linked to in the main body of the list.

TOS
In The Name of Honor by Dayton Ward
Mere Anarchy: Things Fall Apart by Dayton Ward and Kevin Dilmore.
Constellations anthology, annotations by Allyn Gibson
"The Aliens Are Coming" by Dayton Ward from Strange New Worlds III

TNG
Section 31: Abyss by Andy Mangels and Michael A. Martin, annotations by Mangels.
A Time for War, A Time for Peace by Keith R.A. Decandido.
"Friends With the Sparrows" by Christopher L. Bennett, The Sky's The Limit anthology.

DS9
Warpath by David Mack

VOY
"Brief Candle" by Christopher L. Bennett
"Almost... But Not Quite" by Dayton Ward, in Strange New Worlds II.

Vanguard
Summon The Thunder by Dayton Ward and Kevin Dilmore, annotations by Ward.

And thanks to Memory Beta, I discovered annotations for this Strange New World story, "The Immortality Blues", by Marc Carlson in which he makes reference to The Sundered.
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To Dayton Ward: According to Memory Beta, you once had annotations for "The Aliens Are Coming", "Almost, But Not Quite" and Things Fall Apart, but the links are bad. Do they still exist elsewhere? ETA: Never mind.

To William Leisner: The same Memory Beta page says that you once had annotations for The Insolence of Office as well as Out of the Cocoon. Will we see them again with the (hopefully) eventual release of Slings and Arrows in trade?

To Christopher: The direct link to your "Brief Candle" notes on this page doesn't seem to work.
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To Dayton Ward: According to Memory Beta, you once had annotations for "The Aliens Are Coming", "Almost, But Not Quite" and Things Fall Apart, but the links are bad. Do they still exist elsewhere?
"The Aliens Are Coming"

"Almost, But Not Quite"

Things Fall Apart

(I've edited the Memory Beta page, so the links there are correct now, too)


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To William Leisner: The same Memory Beta page says that you once had annotations for The Insolence of Office as well as Out of the Cocoon. Will we see them again with the (hopefully) eventual release of Slings and Arrows in trade?
He said earlier in this thread that he plans to re-post those for OotC at least:

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I also plan to re-post my lost annotations for Out of the Cocoon in time for the tpb release.
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To Christopher: The direct link to your "Brief Candle" notes on this page doesn't seem to work.
Works for me.

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Turtletrekker wrote: View Post
To Dayton Ward: According to Memory Beta, you once had annotations for "The Aliens Are Coming", "Almost, But Not Quite" and Things Fall Apart, but the links are bad. Do they still exist elsewhere?
"The Aliens Are Coming"

"Almost, But Not Quite"

Things Fall Apart

(I've edited the Memory Beta page, so the links there are correct now, too)
Thanks for the info. Will add to addendum (Addaddendum?).

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To William Leisner: The same Memory Beta page says that you once had annotations for The Insolence of Office as well as Out of the Cocoon. Will we see them again with the (hopefully) eventual release of Slings and Arrows in trade?
He said earlier in this thread that he plans to re-post those for OotC at least:

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I also plan to re-post my lost annotations for Out of the Cocoon in time for the tpb release.
I did catch the earlier reference, which is why I said "as well as", but I could've been clearer. The question was specific to the eventully seeing annotations for The Insolence of Office.
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To Christopher: The direct link to your "Brief Candle" notes on this page doesn't seem to work.
Works for me.
Really? The link from Christopher's page? I still get nothin'.
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Yeah, this link works for me: http://home.fuse.net/ChristopherLBen...rs.html#Candle


Maybe it works if you take out the #candle? That way you will only reach the top of his spoiler/annotation site and have to scroll down to Brief candle, though.
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^The link that didn't work was the one on the top of my Trek Fiction page that was supposed to jump down to the introductory "Brief Candle" discussion on the same page. Defcon, you were using the link from that introductory discussion to the spoiler notes on a different page. (The main page is kept mostly spoiler-free for those who haven't read the stories/novels yet.) I've now fixed the former link. Turtletrekker, thanks for pointing that out.
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To William Leisner: The same Memory Beta page says that you once had annotations for The Insolence of Office as well as Out of the Cocoon. Will we see them again with the (hopefully) eventual release of Slings and Arrows in trade?
Yes. Probably well before.
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