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Old May 26 2010, 02:18 PM   #16
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I should bring up a small bit of presumption on my part-- I assumed that the forthcoming A Choice of Catastrophes and Star Trek: DTI would be novel-verse friendly. Given the previous works of the authors it seemed like a safe assumption. I actually meant to attempt to confirm via e-mail, but forgot.
DTI will indeed be part of the main novel continuity.


How does the portrayal of Gorkon in In the Name of Honor conflict with Vanguard? I haven't read ItNoH in quite a while.


Maybe you should mention that VGR: Full Circle references "Isabo's Shirt." Also, there are some typographical problems in the VGR post, with series titles (such as Spirit Walk and Dark Matters) being listed in the same way as their individual installment titles and thus being confusing to the uninitiated.
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Old May 26 2010, 02:38 PM   #17
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This is magnificent! Now you need to put them in chronological order. (And read them in order!)

Only one thought right now: TNG: Possession is a direct sequel to one of Dillard's original series novels.

We are actually writing a fairly standalone book in A Choice of Catastrophes; there's been pretty minimal references to non-television adventures. (Heck, there's been minimal references to television adventures.) I don't think there are any inconsistencies with the wider novelverse, but consistency is not something we're striving for. (I wanted to reference Troublesome Minds, but then I remembered that our story is set first.)
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Old May 26 2010, 02:39 PM   #18
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Not to be nitpicky, but it's Vanguard that conflicts with In the Name of Honor.




In all seriousness, this is an awesome list. Nice work by everyone who contributed, and big kudos to Turtletrekker!
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Old May 26 2010, 02:52 PM   #19
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Not to be nitpicky, but it's Vanguard that conflicts with In the Name of Honor.

Ohh-kay. But how?
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Old May 26 2010, 03:05 PM   #20
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Ohh-kay. But how?
Pardon me, sir, for not snapping to at your command.

Gorkon is portrayed in Vanguard as being on the Council at a point far earlier than alluded to in In the Name of Honor.
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Old May 26 2010, 04:47 PM   #21
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Could he have left the Council and been re-elected/re-appointed/whatever?
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Old May 26 2010, 06:30 PM   #22
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I don't think you mentioned that Saavik was assigned to the Enterprise A in the second DC Comics series, and appeared aboard her in Mere Anarchy: The Blood-Dimmed Tide.
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Old May 26 2010, 06:42 PM   #23
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Holy freaking crap. This is incredible.

As Christopher mentioned, there are a few little typographical problems, but overall... well done. Wow.
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Old May 26 2010, 07:44 PM   #24
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We are actually writing a fairly standalone book in A Choice of Catastrophes; there's been pretty minimal references to non-television adventures. (Heck, there's been minimal references to television adventures.)
In point of fact, The Tears of Eridanus, despite being a Myriad Universes tale, contains more lit references than what we've written of A Choice of Catastrophes so far. Weird, I know.
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Old May 26 2010, 08:52 PM   #25
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Another thing I thought of: A few old novels - Strangers from the Sky, Final Frontier and (I think) Entropy Effect referenced events and used dates from the Goldsteins' old Star Trek Spaceflight Chronology (which I believe the FASA Trek timeline was based on, or vice versa).
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Old May 26 2010, 08:59 PM   #26
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^Indeed, The Final Reflection is based quite heavily on the Goldstein Chronology, as I recall.
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Old May 26 2010, 09:26 PM   #27
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Old May 26 2010, 09:27 PM   #28
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Not to open a can of worms, but...

One could argue that Spock's World brings in the entirety of Doctor Who as an in-universe work of fiction.

I read somewhere that at some point in the DS9-R Taran'atar picks a fight with an Aliens Alien in the holosuite, so the same applies. And isn't Predator a part of the same universe? Considering the Jem'Hadar are fairly blatant Predator rip-offs this is quite interesting.

I've read that Ishmael had one or two big huge unauthorized crossovers (to stuff I didn't watch so have no knowledge of), too.
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Old May 26 2010, 09:39 PM   #29
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One could argue that Spock's World brings in the entirety of Doctor Who as an in-universe work of fiction.
Except that My Enemy, My Ally (or was it The Wounded Sky?) had previously depicted it as a work of fiction. One of the old 20th-century videos that Ensign Freeman and Uhura were converting to 3-D was shown playing, with a blue box materializing and a curly-haired fellow in a long, colorful scarf emerging (and saying a line Tom Baker never said in any actual episode).

I don't recall how Spock's World references Doctor Who, but Ishmael certainly alludes to it with references to Metebelis crystals and a time-travelling civilization in Kasterborous (Gallifrey's home galaxy).


I read somewhere that at some point in the DS9-R Taran'atar picks a fight with an Aliens Alien in the holosuite, so the same applies.
All that proves is that the Alien franchise exists as fiction in the Trek universe. It's no different from Data playing Sherlock Holmes or Henry V.

And isn't Predator a part of the same universe? Considering the Jem'Hadar are fairly blatant Predator rip-offs this is quite interesting.
Actually the Nausicaans are the ones who resemble Predators.


I've read that Ishmael had one or two big huge unauthorized crossovers (to stuff I didn't watch so have no knowledge of), too.
The whole book is a crossover with the Western Here Come the Brides.
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Old May 26 2010, 09:41 PM   #30
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*sigh* Throughout? I'll try to find to time at work to do some edits.

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Not to open a can of worms, but...

One could argue that Spock's World brings in the entirety of Doctor Who as an in-universe work of fiction.

I read somewhere that at some point in the DS9-R Taran'atar picks a fight with an Aliens Alien in the holosuite, so the same applies. And isn't Predator a part of the same universe? Considering the Jem'Hadar are fairly blatant Predator rip-offs this is quite interesting.

I've read that Ishmael had one or two big huge unauthorized crossovers (to stuff I didn't watch so have no knowledge of), too.
You want worms? Planet X could bring in the entire Marvel multi-verse, which has crossed over with the DC universe.

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