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Old May 25 2010, 02:15 AM   #331
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Re: Where did Spock go?

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Which of course doesn't matter, because when Spock met Kirk, he was a cadet, and would have the rank insignias to prove it.
Did he? At the time, Kirk just had the black undershirt on, not the gold tunic which indicates rank. Of course, the undershirt is a change to the original uniforms.

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An image in my catalogue has a Kelvin uniform with the Enterprise chevon on it as well as on cadet uniforms.Another piece of evidence that the JJverse did not come from the Prime one.
Back to this again? The original Star Trek used the Enterprise insignias for non-Enterprise officers on multiple occasions. "Court Martial" comes to mind as a pertinent example.
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Old May 25 2010, 02:55 AM   #332
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Back to this again? The original Star Trek used the Enterprise insignias for non-Enterprise officers on multiple occasions. "Court Martial" comes to mind as a pertinent example.
There's no evidence in TOS that the chevron insignia is associated only with the Enterprise - it appears on other personnel as early as "The Cage" and on occasion later. The "it's the Enterprise emblem" explanation for it was manufactured after the fact, as was a lot of other "basic" Trek lore - hell, they didn't officially settle the time period as being in the 23rd century until the movies.

The best evidence that AbramsTrek fits into the ongoing Trek Universe may, in fact, be that it's inconsistent.
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Old May 25 2010, 06:13 AM   #333
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Which of course doesn't matter, because when Spock met Kirk, he was a cadet, and would have the rank insignias to prove it.
Did he? At the time, Kirk just had the black undershirt on, not the gold tunic which indicates rank. Of course, the undershirt is a change to the original uniforms.
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They used the black undershirts in TOS, the only difference was they were short sleeved.
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Old May 25 2010, 06:39 AM   #334
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I recall some instances of black undershirts, and others where the black part was just attached to the tunic--I'm blanking on the episode, but McCoy tears Kirk's tunic to inject him with a hypospray in the end of it and there's no black undershirt.
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Old May 25 2010, 06:43 AM   #335
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You're probably thinking of Naked Time. When Spock and Tormolen get their physicals from McCoy they're wearing black T-shirts. Kirk though (when he get injected with the antidote) apparently doesn't wear one.
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Old May 25 2010, 06:52 AM   #336
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Yeah, it was "The Naked Time." Just blanked on the episode title...
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Old May 25 2010, 07:26 AM   #337
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Which of course doesn't matter, because when Spock met Kirk, he was a cadet, and would have the rank insignias to prove it.
Did he? At the time, Kirk just had the black undershirt on, not the gold tunic which indicates rank.
According to the transporter display screen (when they are trying to beam up Sulu and Kirk from the drill site), Kirk is a Lieutenant at that point.
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Old May 25 2010, 07:50 AM   #338
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Right, but there's no way Spock could know that.
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Old May 25 2010, 08:38 AM   #339
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The only known exception to this rule on the Internet is Languatron.
1.) I thought he locked his fora so only he could read them, and

2.) The level of mental illness necessary to produce his sheer quantity of monologues is...staggering.
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Old May 25 2010, 11:01 AM   #340
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Spock can't save Vulcan, that's not how timelines work (in modern Trek). He can travel to a point in time where Vulcan exists and save it there, and live out his life in that timeline. The Abramsverse timeline with a destroyed Vulcan will continue to exist. The sum of all existing planets Vulcan across all timelines is constant.
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Old May 25 2010, 01:29 PM   #341
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That is the way they set it up, isn't it?

Golly, since the time travel rules are inconsistent across universes, that means Abrams' movie not only can't be in the same "universe" as Trek but not even within the same multiverse/totality-of-creation/everything-that-exists as the rest of Trek.

Except that, you know, it's actually fiction and all of it can even exist right now, on soundstages in America on Earth within a fifty year period.
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Old May 25 2010, 02:27 PM   #342
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Old May 25 2010, 03:09 PM   #343
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The only known exception to this rule on the Internet is Languatron.
1.) I thought he locked his fora so only he could read them, and

2.) The level of mental illness necessary to produce his sheer quantity of monologues is...staggering.
I think the guy also inadvertently gives away his real name in his signature links.
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Old May 25 2010, 03:13 PM   #344
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1.) I thought he locked his fora so only he could read them, and
Langy bans your IP if he notices you visiting more than a couple of times.

Seriously.
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Which of course doesn't matter, because when Spock met Kirk, he was a cadet, and would have the rank insignias to prove it.
Did he? At the time, Kirk just had the black undershirt on, not the gold tunic which indicates rank.
According to the transporter display screen (when they are trying to beam up Sulu and Kirk from the drill site), Kirk is a Lieutenant at that point.
Lieutenant Kirk! Awesome find. It makes it a little more plausible that they'd promote a lieutenant to captain, especially one gifted (and presumably proven) enough to have already earned lieutenant stripes by his third year at the academy.
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