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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

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Old May 23 2010, 11:50 PM   #16
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Re: Just watched Star Trek V - pros and cons

I really liked the Sybok we got. I'm not sure I would have been able to believe Sean Connery was Spock's half brother, much less a Vulcan. I had enough trouble when he was a Scottish-accented Russian defector!
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Old May 24 2010, 12:03 AM   #17
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I really liked the Sybok we got. I'm not sure I would have been able to believe Sean Connery was Spock's half brother, much less a Vulcan. I had enough trouble when he was a Scottish-accented Russian defector!
Though there is a connection between Connery and the budget. Paramount was so stupid to shoot The Final Frontier at the same time as Indiana Jones 3. And because of that Shatner couldn't get Connery, and because of that Paramount didn't trust the movie to be a success, and because of THAT they didn't give Shatner the budget he needed. Shot themselves in the foot with that.

Similar things happened with Nemesis. It's like Paramount intentionally wanted these two movies to bomb.
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Old May 24 2010, 12:08 AM   #18
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As I always say I like all Star Trek movies to some degree or other and Trek V is no exception. It reminds me of some of the more cheesier episodes of the original series. There are wonderful moments of character development between Kirk, Spock and McCoy. Sybok really is a very interesting character.

Some of the humor and Uhura's fan dance are cringe worthy and the special effects are not up top par but they do have a certain charm to them.

All in all I really do like this movie flaws and all.
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Old May 24 2010, 01:42 AM   #19
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As I noted in another thread, it shares a lot in common with "The Way to Eden," and is about as bad.

It does have a terrific Goldsmith score, though. Hopefully a complete release of that will emerge someday.
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Old May 24 2010, 02:06 AM   #20
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I will also add that this was Shatner's first film to direct. To direct a major sci-fi movie full of special effects as your first film is a big undertaking.
I know, the same can be said of Jonathan Frakes and Leonard Nimoy who were more successful, but it's all I got.
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Old May 24 2010, 03:10 AM   #21
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Harvey wrote: View Post
As I noted in another thread, it shares a lot in common with "The Way to Eden," and is about as bad.

It does have a terrific Goldsmith score, though. Hopefully a complete release of that will emerge someday.
Maybe that is why I like it so much. The Way to Eden is one of my favorite episodes!
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Old May 24 2010, 03:57 AM   #22
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As I always say I like all Star Trek movies to some degree or other and Trek V is no exception. It reminds me of some of the more cheesier episodes of the original series. There are wonderful moments of character development between Kirk, Spock and McCoy. Sybok really is a very interesting character.

Some of the humor and Uhura's fan dance are cringe worthy and the special effects are not up top par but they do have a certain charm to them.

All in all I really do like this movie flaws and all.
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Old May 24 2010, 04:09 AM   #23
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Great movie. Lots of themes and subtext. I especially enjoyed the irony of the 'planet of galactic peace', staffed by cynical, jaded representatives of the big three empires, where its denizens make homemade weapons in order to fight over rocks. In the end of the film, they enjoy the peace they were pretending at all along.

Of course, they were back at odds in VI, but a film should be judged by its own merits.
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Old May 24 2010, 04:11 AM   #24
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Old May 24 2010, 04:13 AM   #25
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Great movie. Lots of themes and subtext. I especially enjoyed the irony of the 'planet of galactic peace', staffed by cynical, jaded representatives of the big three empires, where its denizens make homemade weapons in order to fight over rocks. In the end of the film, they enjoy the peace they were pretending at all along.

Of course, they were back at odds in VI, but a film should be judged by its own merits.
I do love the jaded Ambassadors, that they feel they were being punished for having a part in the Planet of Galactic Peace.
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Old May 24 2010, 04:20 AM   #26
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I do love the jaded Ambassadors, that they feel they were being punished for having a part in the Planet of Galactic Peace.
Was the Planet Of Galactic Peace a metaphor for the UN?
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Old May 24 2010, 05:37 AM   #27
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Similar things happened with Nemesis. It's like Paramount intentionally wanted these two movies to bomb.
Actually, Nemesis is one of my favorite Trek movies so I don't think they intentionally wanted it to bomb. I liked the action in Nemesis and I thought the movie was awesome. I think though a better choice for Picard's clone would have been that English fellow that likes to dress like Picard in real life. No idea who he is but he buys Trek memorabilia and looks eerily like Picard but younger.
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Old May 24 2010, 06:35 AM   #28
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I do love the jaded Ambassadors, that they feel they were being punished for having a part in the Planet of Galactic Peace.
Was the Planet Of Galactic Peace a metaphor for the UN?
Perhaps. I saw it more as forgetful diplomacy, where half hearted efforts are made to work together, something gets halfway done, and then the governments quickly toss it from the books.
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Old May 24 2010, 01:51 PM   #29
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I saw TFF on TV some years ago. When I did, I had already been on here for a while, so I was expecting to get most of my entertainment value from laughing at how cheesy it was. When it was over, I instead thought, "Wow, that really felt like the show." Don't get me wrong, I like some of the action-adventure movies like TWoK and TUC, but they feel like a different animal from the show. TMP and TFF have their faults, but they really do feel like true extensions of the original series, and not just popcorn movies with the same actors.

As for the special effects, the only thing I remember groaning at was Spock's rocket-boots/green-screen thing. I don't recall anything else really drawing my attention.

I like Luckinbill well enough, and I agree that Connery wouldn't have seemed right as a Vulcan. But if that would've made that studio more confident about the movie, hey, Connery in Trek may have been kind of interesting (of course, if it did happen, people would probably just be listing him as another reason the movie didn't work).
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Old May 24 2010, 03:13 PM   #30
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Go and get the Star Trek Magazine movies special, where I defend this as, well, the best TOS finale episode we could get...
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