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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
Excellent 706 62.70%
Above Average 213 18.92%
Average 84 7.46%
Below Average 46 4.09%
Poor 77 6.84%
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Old January 5 2010, 05:10 AM   #2596
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I think almost every scene has problems, but let's test my theory: If someone would like to pick a scene, I'll check it for problems to which a reasonably alert viewer might have objections.
So you're going to test your theory by using your opinion to poke holes in a scene because you're the "reasonably alert viewer" who needs to say he's better than someone who liked the movie?

Looking at your secondary location and based on your Captain Robert April love, you're either him or know him.
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Old January 5 2010, 08:02 AM   #2597
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Looking at your secondary location and based on your Captain Robert April love, you're either him or know him.
Knock it off. You know better than that.
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Old January 13 2010, 01:32 PM   #2598
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Despite being 100% skeptical before, I voted excellent. I really liked the movie, being a CGI guy I ofcourse was paying extra attention to the effects. I loved the way the ships moved to warp, the battle scenes, and that kind of 70's sunlight. (I still think the flares are a bit distracting, but I must admit I use them more then I did before because of this movie... )

The only thing that still bothers me is the design and size of the Enterprise and the engineering section. It would have been better to go all the way "new". (Instead of "melting" the TMP refit.)

Overall, I'm pretty confident that this was a very succesfull and perhaps well needed "restart" of the franchise. I hope Paramount/CBS is smart enough to translate it into a new "TNG era" series in this new timeline, after the last movie.
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Old March 11 2010, 01:45 AM   #2599
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For that matter, he could even go back and prevent the accident that destroyed Romulus in the first place
Don’t you mean go forward, since that event is 129 years after the events in the film?
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Old March 11 2010, 09:23 AM   #2600
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As a movie: average
As a Star Trek movie: poor

Overall experience watching it: aggravating as hell.
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Old May 3 2010, 01:21 PM   #2601
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I still love this movie let's hope the sequel will be one to cherish as well.
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Old May 3 2010, 04:32 PM   #2602
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Baba gives this movie teh baba seal of approval
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Old May 3 2010, 04:37 PM   #2603
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What did you think of the movie live up to your expectations?
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Old May 3 2010, 05:47 PM   #2604
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I still love this movie let's hope the sequel will be one to cherish as well.
Hope is unnecessary...the next effort is certain to have "Star Trek" in its title.
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Old May 10 2010, 06:37 PM   #2605
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I have to say one year on and its still amazing so glad they went back to the TOS era .

I have some work colleagues that didn't even know about the NUTREK film so invited them round for the blu ray experience both of them loved in fact they now own there own copy,s of it !!!!

LLAP THE STAR TREK FRANCHISE !!!!!
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Old May 10 2010, 08:27 PM   #2606
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I have to say one year on and its still amazing so glad they went back to the TOS era .

I have some work colleagues that didn't even know about the NUTREK film so invited them round for the blu ray experience both of them loved in fact they now own there own copy,s of it !!!!

LLAP THE STAR TREK FRANCHISE !!!!!
None of you noticed or were bothered by dialog inconsistencies, nonsensical plot elements, and enthusiastic militarism in the film?
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Old May 10 2010, 08:36 PM   #2607
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nope didn't bother me
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Old May 10 2010, 09:55 PM   #2608
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nope didn't bother me
Well of course not! The film comes with a label of Star Trek, characters having the same names as TOS, and you already did a good job explaining your critical standard. If it says "Star Trek" you love it. BTW - I have some STAR TREK souvenirs (from Admiral Archer's beagle) for sale...

Actually, the question was directed to Nero's Shadow. Some people actually do seem to believe "If it's Trek, it's good" is a reasonable standard for judging a film.
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Old May 13 2010, 06:41 AM   #2609
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I look at the believability of a film, the story, the characterization, the effects, and many other elements when making a judgement. And I thought Star Trek measures up pretty darn well in a lot of departments. Sure, it isn't perfect. In fact, I have had my own personal little nitpicks with it. But they are easily forgivable in light of the majority of the film. Now, whether you enjoyed it or not is a personal taste preference I think. But to suggest that the film is serious flawed? I just don't see it.

Now, Transformers 2, Crank 2, Transporter 2, Quantum of Solace, Indian Jones 4, Die Hard 4 and Ghost Rider are seriously flawed films. They are just mindless entertainment in it's highest form. At least, in my opinion, anyways.

Also, to say that a film is good based on the fact that it has the title Star Trek in it is simply not true: In fact, general audience that brought in money for this film and not just the fans. Also, it was favored by critics, as well.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0796366/

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809752801/info

http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/startrek2009

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/star_trek_11/


And as you know:
Recent previous Trek films didn't do all that well at the box office or with the critics.

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Old May 13 2010, 09:27 PM   #2610
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I look at the believability of a film, the story, the characterization, the effects, and many other elements when making a judgement. And I thought Star Trek measures up pretty darn well in a lot of departments.
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Also, to say that a film is good based on the fact that it has the title Star Trek in it is simply not true.
I tend to agree with you, but some people do claim that "Good= I liked it" and that "If it's Star Trek, then I like it." Therefore, by such people's standards (even though they are generally considered "poor" criteria) the film is good. The accuracy of any observation that people hold what might be considered unreasonable views is not put in question simply because the views are demonstrably unreliable or inconsistent with norms of reasonable thinking.

On the other hand, popularity of unreasonable ideas (nor profitability of evil views) don't make them reasonable (or virtuous).

Having said that, can you explain why you thought the film believable? Specifically, I'm working on a "Minute 100" blog entry, when Spock mentally rapes an unconscious Romulan who was shot by Kirk. The plan they explained earlier was for Spock to get the info from the ship's computer, but without a word, the plan changed completely in the middle of a battle. Spock was then able to meld with a mind that does not exist, since the mind only exists when very specific brain processes are operating, and unconscious brains cannot produce a mind any more than a combustion-free candle can produce light. IMO: not believable or consistent.

As for believability, (your first criteria) I also thought about after the mental rape, when Kirk first asks about "it" when they are supposed to be rescuing Pike, since Kirk wasn't to tell altSpock about Spock Prime, or his ship. How the hell does Spock know of the "black hole device" being "stolen" from someone? When did that conversation take place? Inconsistent and unbelievable, IMO.

Next, why are there hundreds of people outside Starfleet Academy & HQ running TOWARD a giant, flaming pillar of death? Wouldn't they be on communicators trying to avoid whatever was about to happen? Unbelievable response on their part, IMO.

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