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Old May 12 2010, 12:44 AM   #1
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Curious were did the sand worms come from in dune

cause they they are not native to dune.
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Old May 12 2010, 12:57 AM   #2
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Re: Curious were did the sand worms come from in dune

How can they not be native to the setting (which is what Dune is)? If you mean the planet, which is called Arrakis, I'm pretty sure they are are native. Sand worms are the source of the spice afterall.
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Old May 12 2010, 12:58 AM   #3
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Re: Curious were did the sand worms come from in dune

I always thought that sandworms *are* native to Arrakis.
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Old May 12 2010, 01:08 AM   #4
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Re: Curious were did the sand worms come from in dune

No it's true they're not native to Arrakis. The books mention it was a watery world, to which the sandtrout (a phase in the life of sandworms) were introduced. They link to create giant cysterns that cordon off water, which then participates in the creation of spice.
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Old May 12 2010, 01:09 AM   #5
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Re: Curious were did the sand worms come from in dune

"Sandtrout"... I love that word. Actually I love any word with 'TROUT' in it.
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Old May 12 2010, 01:37 AM   #6
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Re: Curious were did the sand worms come from in dune

They came from Cleveland.
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Old May 12 2010, 01:59 AM   #7
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Re: Curious were did the sand worms come from in dune

Arrakis had water until some cataclysm fifty million years prior to the books caused a global desertification. The sand trout were one of the few, if not only indigenous species capable of adapting to the new climate. The rest moved to Tatooine.
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Old May 12 2010, 02:30 AM   #8
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Re: Curious were did the sand worms come from in dune

It is true (can't remember what book states it) but the sandworms did not originate from Arrakis but once they were "immigrated" there I suppose that one could argue they began some kind of symbiotic relationship with the planet that enabled them to produce the spice melange.
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Old May 12 2010, 03:16 AM   #9
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Re: Curious were did the sand worms come from in dune

TEH BABA wrote: View Post
cause they they are not native to dune.
Earth of course.
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Old May 12 2010, 03:34 AM   #10
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Re: Curious were did the sand worms come from in dune

The reason Dune is perpetually a desert world is primarily because of the worms. Them moving around all the time and being so huge means that the sand can never stratify into separate landmasses. Plus they cordon off the water so no oceans.

Frank Herbert did his homework on how a desert world can come to be.
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Old May 12 2010, 03:46 AM   #11
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Re: Curious were did the sand worms come from in dune

In the "true" Dune novels, there is NO evidence to support the idea that the Sand worms were imported from another world. They are as far as anyone can tell native to Arrakis.

The published "fanfic" prequels may have other ideas, but they do not count.
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Old May 12 2010, 04:06 AM   #12
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Re: Curious were did the sand worms come from in dune

There were no actual sand worms in Dune. What the characters think they see is a hallucinatory effect of ingesting the spice melange.

I thought that was pretty obvious from reading the book.
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Old May 12 2010, 10:59 AM   #13
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Re: Curious were did the sand worms come from in dune

Well, when a mummy sandworm and a daddy sandworm love each other very much...
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Old May 12 2010, 02:34 PM   #14
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Re: Curious were did the sand worms come from in dune

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There were no actual sand worms in Dune. What the characters think they see is a hallucinatory effect of ingesting the spice melange.

I thought that was pretty obvious from reading the book.
I'm not sure if you're pulling my leg or not.
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Old May 12 2010, 05:49 PM   #15
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Re: Curious were did the sand worms come from in dune

I know you're joking, MeanJoePhaser, but I'd like to hear how people traveled great distances, got eaten, or lost their mobile spice harvesters on Arrakis if not for the sandworms.
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