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Old April 27 2010, 10:18 PM   #151
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Reviews are starting to show up. For those who care about such things The Hollywood Reporter gives it a failing grade. However, upon reading this it seems the reviewer is now officially not understanding where this movie was going anyway.

Well, that didn't take long. Everything fun and terrific about "Iron Man," a mere two years ago, has vanished with its sequel. In its place, "Iron Man 2" has substituted noise, confusion, multiple villains, irrelevant stunts and misguided story lines.

A film series that started out with critical and commercial success will have to settle for only the latter with this sequel; Robert Downey Jr.'s return as Tony Stark/Iron Man will assure that.
I like how this review thinks that in their opinion there was nothing of critical acclaim that everyone is going to think that. Way to taint people's mindset going in there THR.

This movie is critic proof but thought I'd post it for those who do like to give stock to such things.
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Old April 27 2010, 10:49 PM   #152
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You're right. Who cares what critics think anymore! They are so old and like, not cool.

Iron Man 2 seems to be garnering positive reviews from some of the Internet critics, like Drew McWeeny over at HitFix, formerly Moriarty of AintItCoolNews and the man himself, Harry Knowles, who lavishes the film with jubilant praise.
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Old April 27 2010, 10:52 PM   #153
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^ Doesn't Harry do that with every summer blockbuster that comes out though?
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Old April 27 2010, 10:59 PM   #154
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^ Doesn't Harry do that with every summer blockbuster that comes out though?
Naw, he's dished out his share of hate.

From the descriptions, it does seem to me that this might be a movie that fans of the comics will appreciate more than non-fans (for example, the large cast of characters).
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Old April 27 2010, 11:12 PM   #155
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I have a sneaking suspicion the film will replicate a lot of what made the first film successful (wisecracks, action sequences, etc) but not really build onto anything new, i.e. The Empire Strikes Back, X2, or The Dark Knight. Which is fine -- I'm sure fans of the first movie and comic-book fans in general will eat it up -- but thematically speaking I have a feeling it's going to be a tad stagnate.
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Old April 27 2010, 11:42 PM   #156
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You're right. Who cares what critics think anymore! They are so old and like, not cool.
Anymore? I haven't cared about prudish critics and their opinions, well ever. We so rarely agree. I know what I like and watch enough reviews to make a decison for myself, some(maybe not you) though are lazy and just let others tell them UP or DOWN.

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I have a sneaking suspicion the film will replicate a lot of what made the first film successful (wisecracks, action sequences, etc) but not really build onto anything new, i.e. The Empire Strikes Back, X2, or The Dark Knight.
I agree I doubt it'll go as dark and serious as what you mention but not doing so isn't a defacto bad thing. As far as building onto anything it's apparent they are building up the MCU(Marvel Comics Universe, Kevin Friege used that somewhere) on screen.

We will all know in a few short days though.
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Old April 27 2010, 11:59 PM   #157
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^^Well, The Dark Knight was vastly overrated. I could barely sit through it.
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Old April 28 2010, 12:06 AM   #158
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Anymore? I haven't cared about prudish critics and their opinions, well ever. We so rarely agree. I know what I like and watch enough reviews to make a decison for myself, some(maybe not you) though are lazy and just let others tell them UP or DOWN.
I think that's very narrow-minded thinking. I really enjoy reading what critics have to say about films, especially some critics that I respect (i.e. Roger Ebert, Michael Phillips, A.O. Scott) but even if they disapprove of a film, it doesn't necessarily influence my opinion so much as to educate my opinion.

For example, Ebert, Phillips and Scott all vehemently hated Kick-Ass but I had so much anticipation over the film that even the combined forces of their dissenting opinions weren't going to deter my excitement or sway me not to see it. I've seen Kick-Ass three times now, and it's probably my favorite movie of the year so far, regardless of what they think. Just because I disagree with them from time-to-time, doesn't mean I have to completely disregard what they say. I'm open to all forms of criticism, negative or positive, and I listen to them regardless whether I agree with them or not. It's just nice sometimes to have a variety of options, and a slew of different opinions/points-of-view.

I agree I doubt it'll go as dark and serious as what you mention but not doing so isn't a defacto bad thing. As far as building onto anything it's apparent they are building up the MCU(Marvel Comics Universe, Kevin Friege used that somewhere) on screen.

We will all know in a few short days though.
I'm not just talking about dark and serious. I'm talking about adding to the world they established in the first film. For example, The Empire Strikes Back built on the mythology of the first film, by expounding the relationships and transforming them, as well as taking a different thematic approach (the first film was admittedly lighter, and ESB was considerably darker in tone) but what I loved about ESB is that by the film's end, technically speaking the heroes had lost, the villains had won, and there was much more left in that universe to explore (what would happen to Han Solo? How will Luke Skywalker adjust to finding out he's the son of Darth Vader? How will that thematically change the course of the series?). ESB essentially opened the doors to new exciting potential that just wasn't there before.

I have a feeling that Iron Man 2 will just regurgitate what made the first film so successful: Tony Stark will continue being a wiseass, cracking jokes, Rhodey will continue being Tony's best friend with a skeptical eye, Pepper Potts will have the same awkward, unresolved chemistry/relationship with Tony, and so on and so forth. By the end of the film, there will be no apparent risks taken, no character evolution or changes, and nothing to really propel the story into new, exciting ground. I could be completely wrong, though. I'm just going by the half a dozen reviews I've read so far which seem to indicate this.

I hope I'm wrong, at the very least. Some of the best sequels of all time have allowed the central story to be taken to new exciting levels so things didn't remain stagnate, and it allowed for the audience to wonder what just might happen to these beloved characters. We'll certainly see.
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Old April 28 2010, 12:16 AM   #159
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^ I'm hoping that we'll see trinkets of plots and themes that might creep up in Iron Man 3 but I'll doubt it. I'm another person who enjoys reading critics and listening to them regarding their views on movies but I don't go see films based on what they say. I go see movies based on if I want to see them or not.
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Old April 28 2010, 03:22 AM   #160
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Read a review from the folks at Supanova (an Australian convention company) on my facebook wall. But gonna try and ignore all reviews until I see, which shall be in the 24 hours, as it opens here tomorrow.
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Old April 28 2010, 06:25 AM   #161
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I'll be in the theater in less than 6 hours!

Should we start the grading thread now?
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Old April 28 2010, 07:28 AM   #162
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As far as building onto anything it's apparent they are building up the MCU(Marvel Comics Universe, Kevin Friege used that somewhere) on screen.
that was the Marvel Cinematic Universe, which he mentioned in a SuperHeroHype interview
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Old April 28 2010, 12:50 PM   #163
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ETA t minus 10 minutes! See you in two hours, bitches!
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Old April 28 2010, 02:10 PM   #164
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Anymore? I haven't cared about prudish critics and their opinions, well ever. We so rarely agree. I know what I like and watch enough reviews to make a decison for myself, some(maybe not you) though are lazy and just let others tell them UP or DOWN.
I think that's very narrow-minded thinking. I really enjoy reading what critics have to say about films,
I didn't say I didn't read them sometimes, they just hold no sway over me. Which is what you essentially said in the rest of your post.


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As far as building onto anything it's apparent they are building up the MCU(Marvel Comics Universe, Kevin Friege used that somewhere) on screen.
that was the Marvel Cinematic Universe, which he mentioned in a SuperHeroHype interview
LOL, mistype there, so used to typing Comics for that 'C' that I went on autopilot. Cinematic, yes, thank you for that correction!
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Stay until the end of the credits for a wicked nerdgasm!

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