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Old April 4 2010, 02:58 AM   #31
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Re: BOOM! A shot into the iPad's heart.

Seriously the weight is an issue? Ok, whats the heaviest book they have read? I mean seriously. I personally have several books that weight that much from old text books, to books of fiction. And I often would read them for hours and hours.

And I was seriously going to buy the Kindle late last year, until this was announced.

I typically read 2 to 4 hours a day. And thats never in direct sunlight (its always inside) so that issue is a non issue for me (but if you are an outdoor reader I would recommend the kindle). I am never going to be reading weeks straight with out access to recharging. So that length of the charge isn't an issue (at least not with users saying more then ten hours) the only time this would ever be an issue is when I used to go camping, and thats been twenty years ago.

And I am sorry but color is a huge, huge issue. I have been reading and collecting comics since 1972. The idea that I can scan those items and input them into the device (which I have done with both desktops and laptops), but one that I can easily take around the house, read while laying down or sitting crazy in a recliner (which even the smaller netbooks suck at) is a huge huge selling point. As is the increase in size and the smaller image the harder to few full scenes (and be able to read the dialogue).

I mean seriously I was going to spend nearly $300 for a smaller B&W reader that would not be able to work with a about a third of what I want to read. And I can't use either laptops or desktops for comfortable reading, period. I have tried for decades. They suck (at that comfort).

But not only that I can get a huge sized MP3 player with it (using both together), I can use it as a very portable video player that works with all of my 3 TB of film and tv and again can be used in comfort in positions that I can't use a desktop, laptop or my computer hooked up to my HDTV).

This for me is a complete no brainer.

For example, I can now have my ipad and go to sleep with my boyfriend, watching,listening or reading to whatever I want (and so can he). We don't have to fight for space to fit to laptops (since if we are both reading it would be to different things), we don't have to have the lights or a small lamp running. If we want to both watch different films of shows to sleep with (we normally are either reading or watching shows to sleep to) we don't have to argue about what to watch, we can each watch what we want (and again not have to worry about lap tops taking up too much room or the HDTV being heard and seen by all.

Seriously just for the ease of sleep its like a huge, huge plus.

And even if I personally had no use for this device (which will be the case for some people, after all we all do have different uses for electronics) getting this product (and the others) out is only going t0 be good for the development of seriously mobile devices that do at some point int he future became more then just media devices but serious computers as well.
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Old April 4 2010, 03:25 AM   #32
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Oh and I laid down on my back held it up over my face and watched Trek, no problems. And I am not strong by any stretch and after using it for that playing around earlier, and such it still had 80% charge. Not bad for probably 4 hours of use with 2 being video.
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Old April 4 2010, 03:29 AM   #33
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I was a little worried about the keyboard, but in landscape mode I can type with both hands just fine (and fast), in upright position its a different story, though it's still much better than on the iPhone.

Don't get it without the apple case, that one is really useful.
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Old April 4 2010, 03:34 AM   #34
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Re: BOOM! A shot into the iPad's heart.

I suspect we're only a year or two from the first color e-paper devices. A quick Google search shows there's plenty of research ongoing.
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Old April 4 2010, 03:43 AM   #35
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I was a little worried about the keyboard, but in landscape mode I can type with both hands just fine (and fast), in upright position its a different story, though it's still much better than on the iPhone.

Don't get it without the apple case, that one is really useful.
Yeah I am not using for serious writing or data entry so I am not needing to hit 40 wpm, but for a quick email (something I rarely do) or more likely posting on a forum) it works fine for me (for anyone who can use any phone or Palm like device) it's far more comfortable. Though I would imagine the larger your fingers are the more discomfort (though how anyone with huge hands could use a phone or Palm is beyond me).

I will say the one thing that did slightly disappoint me is the size of the device. It's fractionally smaller then I imagined.
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Old April 4 2010, 03:45 AM   #36
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I suspect we're only a year or two from the first color e-paper devices. A quick Google search shows there's plenty of research ongoing.
Yeah I'm interested in that, and I am glad to see its in development. But I am so glad I don't have to wait. For reading, Color is so important for anything that mixes pure text with visual elements, and there is so much of that out there.

I mean for myself thats magazines (of all types), newspapers and comics all told about half to a 2/3rd of my reading.

And for those with children, or those in college or school with almost all text books using color today. Its a huge part of the reading landscape.
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Old April 4 2010, 03:50 AM   #37
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By the end of the month my boyfriend and I will make the call on buying another (seriously just the sleeping aspect is beyond huge for us). But he bought this first one (and lucky for me he is at work today, so I get to play freely), and that will give us a few weeks to discover hidden joys and hidden disappointments. But based off of the last 5 hours now, I would guess we will have our 2nd one in a month or so.
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Old April 4 2010, 04:27 AM   #38
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Re: BOOM! A shot into the iPad's heart.

I will say the one thing that did slightly disappoint me is the size of the device. It's fractionally smaller then I imagined.
Really? I was thinking it is larger than I expected.
It makes sense to keep one around the house, and since I intend to carry one with me, we are going to *need at least one more.
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I'm loving mine but no it's not light as a cracker. But color was definitely an issue for me, since I do a lot of 3D image work. I'm sure in the future when they improve upon it I'll probably get another one. But this one has a while to impress me and it's got a good start.
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Old April 4 2010, 06:00 PM   #40
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Are people buying it because it's useful or because it's an Apple product? Now I'm not one of those Apple haters out there but I seriously have to ask sometimes. Some people seem to love anything Apple.


I personally don't mind this device. It reminds me of Star Trek padds. The day where everything is written on a padd instead of paper is a beautiful tree saving day. I can't wait for it. To bad for the Finns though.
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Re: BOOM! A shot into the iPad's heart.

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I suspect we're only a year or two from the first color e-paper devices. A quick Google search shows there's plenty of research ongoing.
Which is great, because then the price of black and white style Kindles will drop to allow for the new technology and then I can get one.
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Old April 4 2010, 06:51 PM   #42
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Are people buying it because it's useful or because it's an Apple product? Now I'm not one of those Apple haters out there but I seriously have to ask sometimes. Some people seem to love anything Apple.


I personally don't mind this device. It reminds me of Star Trek padds. The day where everything is written on a padd instead of paper is a beautiful tree saving day. I can't wait for it. To bad for the Finns though.
Well some people are of course those who have brand loyalty (and every company has them), but for myself I have both Mac products and others (currently HP, Dell) for computers for MP3 players it took me a while to get an ipod (as I used an incredibly cheap Sansa instead (until I needed much larger and easier to organize files) and I have no interest at all in the iphone.

For myself this device for price did what I had hoped netbooks would allow, but I hated them as they could perform the tasks I wanted they could not provided the movement range, and ease of use (not the software or the hardware, though to be far I didn't really care for that aspect of the two netbooks I had) but how I could physical interact with the device.
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Re: BOOM! A shot into the iPad's heart.

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Are people buying it because it's useful or because it's an Apple product? Now I'm not one of those Apple haters out there but I seriously have to ask sometimes. Some people seem to love anything Apple.


I personally don't mind this device. It reminds me of Star Trek padds. The day where everything is written on a padd instead of paper is a beautiful tree saving day. I can't wait for it. To bad for the Finns though.
We'll probably need that tree to absorb the carbon dioxide released into the air generating the power to recharge the iPad.

Really people, much of the paper produced in the last several decades is made from modest sized pine "trees" grown as a crop on tree farms. We should feel less guilty about utilizing them than food crops like wheat and corn because we are using a much greater percentage of the plant. The difference is that the trees grown to produce pulp take a dozen years or so to grow, instead of the few months for many food crops.

I find concern over the chemicals used to bleach the pulp used in paper manufacturing somewhat more creditable. A beige to light brown pine wood color would probably be a little easier on most people's eyes anyway.

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Are people buying it because it's useful or because it's an Apple product?
Bingo.
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Re: BOOM! A shot into the iPad's heart.

I want one, and I am going to buy one.

The use for me will be to replace my small laptop I take with me on business trips I take. I need a computing device that allows me to be entertained on long flights (check), I need the ability to record audio during conferences (check), I need the ability to take notes during the conferences (check), and I need the ability to connect to the Internet and email while I'm out of town (check.) For me, it does everything I need it to on these trips, and comes with a format that is easier to handle, carry, and deal with than a laptop.

Plus, I want to be able to use it around the home and be able to connect to the Internet at my home downstairs (my main computer is up stairs) while I watch TV and such. It, to me, seems like it will be much more portable than my laptop could ever be. I foresee myself taking it to places I'd never be able to with my laptop.

When I can save up the money, I'll be going for the 16GB WIFI 3G version.
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