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View Poll Results: I would love to see comics set in these era:
TOS 9 20.93%
TOS movies 12 27.91%
TNG 4 9.30%
Post-series TNG 18 41.86%
DS9 8 18.60%
Post-series DS9 24 55.81%
VOY 6 13.95%
Post-series VOY 17 39.53%
ENT 11 25.58%
Post-series ENT 16 37.21%
More "Crew" (pre-"The Cage") 16 37.21%
VAN 17 39.53%
SCE/CoE 13 30.23%
NF (Peter David's "New Frontier" w/ Calhoun & Shelby) 12 27.91%
TTN (Riker & Troi on USS Titan) 28 65.12%
Excelsior (Captain Sulu) 12 27.91%
More "solo" issues, such as "Captains" and "McCoy" minis 12 27.91%
Post-JJ Abrams "Star Trek" (yeah, eventually, hopefully) 10 23.26%
More "Alien Spotlight" single issues 14 32.56%
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Old March 31 2010, 01:13 AM   #31
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Re: Next comic mini-series/one-shots?

It's not like the world would end if Tuvok were kicked off the ship for a few comics. Just call it a temporary reassignment when he "returns" in the next novel.
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Old March 31 2010, 02:19 AM   #32
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That could work, but he's a pretty big character in the books, so IMO it would really be best if he could be worked into the (theoretical) comics. But apparently he's already appeared in a comic, so I guess he's not an issue.

Now would it be possible to just get the rights to one element of a series without getting the whole thing. Like for instance say a comic writer wanted to do a flashback involving Johnathan Archer or T'Pol, would it be possible to get permission to use just them?
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Old March 31 2010, 04:24 AM   #33
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That could work, but he's a pretty big character in the books, so IMO it would really be best if he could be worked into the (theoretical) comics. But apparently he's already appeared in a comic, so I guess he's not an issue.

Now would it be possible to just get the rights to one element of a series without getting the whole thing. Like for instance say a comic writer wanted to do a flashback involving Johnathan Archer or T'Pol, would it be possible to get permission to use just them?
From what the IDW editors have said before I'd say a significant Enterprise flashback would be a no: The cameos, such as Tuvok and Seven in The Last Generation were allowed because they were minor easter eggs rather than major characters in the series. I think Andrew Steven Harris mentioned before that he was allowed to use Seven because he didn't do so in a big way, and she was always Annika in that reality, so even the recognisability of here name was a factor. (And was Tuvok being established as part of Sulu's crew the excuse he needed to use Tuvok in the series? - I half remember that)

It has also been previously confirmed by IDW editors that a Titan comic could happen, because Titan is definitely covered by the TNG license.

Even if Tuvok on his own became an issue with that licensing, would it really be that hard to do a story in which the Titan's tactical officer plays a minimal role? Reducing him to cameo appearances for Titan comics?

But, CBS seem to have been pretty liberal with the licenses for IDW so far anyway. We've had a (one panel) Phlox flashback, a Columbia shuttlepod, Rigelians from Enterprise, heavy influences from Enterprise Andorians in the Andorian Alien Spotlight, Janeway and Species 8472 in the Borg one, etc etc
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Old March 31 2010, 06:53 AM   #34
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a flashback involving Johnathan Archer or T'Pol, would it be possible to get permission to use just them?
IIRC, Scott Bakula has likeness approval written into his ENT contract, so that always adds extra layers of risk (that he'll refuse approval or demand a redraw) and time allowances to make printing deadlines.

Wasn't someone saying that "Quantum Leap" comics hit such a snag re likeness approvals?
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Old March 31 2010, 08:54 AM   #35
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Bakula had ZERO likeness rights for the Quantum Leap comics (which I worked on). The comics only disappeared because Innovation closed. The series sold quite well.

Remember that likeness approval is generally only given to *STARS* and at the time he signed for QL, Bakula was essentially a character actor at best.
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Old March 31 2010, 09:01 AM   #36
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BTW, I think Tim Russ's Tuvok is an integral part of Titan, as I brought him onboard from Day One (well, after permission from Christie Golden). And Tim appreciates what I did with Tuvok, as he made clear during our confabs at Comic-Con...


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Old March 31 2010, 09:38 AM   #37
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Another New Frontier, maybe a Typhon Pact tie-in with Calhoun dealing with one of the races. Titan and Vanguard would be nice too.

Hopefully after the Movie adaptation we will see a Captain Data series and see how he got to be Captain and became reactivated and his conflict of dealing with the wiping of B4.
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Old March 31 2010, 01:13 PM   #38
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Bakula had ZERO likeness rights for the Quantum Leap comics (which I worked on).
Mmmm. Ok. I wonder what anecdote I'm half-remembering then?
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Old March 31 2010, 04:43 PM   #39
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Bakula had ZERO likeness rights for the Quantum Leap comics (which I worked on). The comics only disappeared because Innovation closed. The series sold quite well.
A shame because Innovation was doing some awesome work with QL and LiS right before it shut down operations. Thank goodness, Bill Mumy was finally able to complete Voyage to the Bottom of the Soul as a graphic novel trade.
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Old March 31 2010, 05:05 PM   #40
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Put an Aventine and Captain Dax comic out, I shall buy every issue.
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Old April 1 2010, 03:25 PM   #41
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I'm still a fan of a Phase II era second 5-year mission. The 70's series and recent mini series were great fun.
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Old April 3 2010, 08:57 PM   #42
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Bakula had ZERO likeness rights for the Quantum Leap comics (which I worked on). The comics only disappeared because Innovation closed. The series sold quite well.

Remember that likeness approval is generally only given to *STARS* and at the time he signed for QL, Bakula was essentially a character actor at best.
Except Bakula did have likeness approval for the QL novels -- I know because I heard a great deal from the editors at Ace on the subject while those books were a going concern. I guess he didn't have the rights for comic books, but he most definitely had approval over novel covers.

(The reason why later QL novels all had Sam wearing a hat was because Ace got tired of asking Bob Larkin to redo the paintings over and over again because Bakula kept complaining about the hairline.)
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Old April 3 2010, 09:09 PM   #43
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Old April 4 2010, 09:32 AM   #44
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I guess he didn't have the rights for comic books, but he most definitely had approval over novel covers... Bakula kept complaining about the hairline.
Whew! Thanks KRAD. I was beginning to think I dreamed that anecdote!
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Old April 6 2010, 01:38 PM   #45
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Except Bakula did have likeness approval for the QL novels -- I know because I heard a great deal from the editors at Ace on the subject while those books were a going concern. I guess he didn't have the rights for comic books, but he most definitely had approval over novel covers.
(The reason why later QL novels all had Sam wearing a hat was because Ace got tired of asking Bob Larkin to redo the paintings over and over again because Bakula kept complaining about the hairline.)
Normally I wouldn't quibble with KRAD, one of the more knowledgeable geek-pros in the field. However, in this case, he's COMPLETELY wrong...

I couldn't recall Sam with a hat from any of the books (I've since sold), and I wasn't sure how the timeline of comic publishing vs. book publishing was. So, I did a little Googling, and voila:

This page shows ALL the novel covers:
http://www.quantumleap-alsplace.com/novels/index.html

Notice anything about Sam in a hat? Nope. Because he doesn't wear one. Ever!

Heck, even Dean Stockwell's only in a hat on TWO covers ( a UK-only one from 1990, and a US one from 1997)!

So, while Stockwell (not Bakula) *MAY* have had problems with Larkin's coverage of him, it apparently wasn't terribly widespread, happening only twice in seven years!

As for the comics, they predated the US books. The comic ran September 1991 to August 1993. The UK novels began in 1990 and the US novels began in November 1992.

Here's the comprehensive comic page link:
http://www.quantumleap-alsplace.com/comics/index.html

Note that Sam IS wearing a hat on three of thirteen covers here (NOT mandated by Bakula, but by the story) as he's a bus driver, a Santa, and a reporter doing a Clark Kent pastiche.
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