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Old April 2 2010, 04:49 AM   #16
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Re: BOOM! A shot into the iPad's heart.

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I swear, the lengths people will go to, to defend Apple's junk...
I hear ya... it is nearly as bad as people who waste their time trashing Apple junk.

Of course Apple haters sort of remind me of STXI haters... I mean people, if you don't like something, move onto to the things you like. There isn't any point wasting time hating when there is so much else in life.
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Old April 2 2010, 04:49 AM   #17
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Seriously, I don't think that the Kindle(s) are going to become roadkill instantly, but it's hard to fathom why somebody would choose a Kindle over the iPad, a one-trick-pony over a multi-talent?
The big difference is e-paper versus LCD. I haven't seen e-paper up close yet, but conceptually there's a big benefit to a device which can be read easily in bright sunlight and which has battery life measured in weeks rather than hours.

The lack of color is a problem, though.
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Old April 2 2010, 05:01 AM   #18
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Re: BOOM! A shot into the iPad's heart.

Yeah, the lack of color is the biggest problem with e-paper with refresh rate a close second (though that's been improving pretty fast). But there's some cool tech coming down the pipe, hopefully in the next few years, that will help quite a bit. But for a lot of people, color isn't such a big deal... if all you're doing is reading novels or newspaper articles you don't need it.

As for "one-trick-pony over a multi-talent"... the obvious comeback is jack of all trades, master of none. If you want a device that can do a little bit of everything, then something like the iPad is great. If you want to do a lot of a single thing and don't care about the other things... why pay extra for something that isn't as good at your preferred task?
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Old April 2 2010, 05:08 AM   #19
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Re: BOOM! A shot into the iPad's heart.

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I say again, if a pound and half weight bothers you after any stretch of time you've got issues.
Try reading a book that weighs that much and see how soon it starts to bother you.
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Old April 2 2010, 05:53 AM   #20
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, but it's hard to fathom why somebody would choose a Kindle over the iPad, a one-trick-pony over a multi-talent?
Because I hate reading on a glowing screen, and I hate carrying around 10 books whenever I'm travelling. Only one compromise makes sense - e-ink.

Also, having been involved in digital forensics for most of the last 8 years, I know how horrible security is on the iPhone, and no way I'd trust it to do much more than very casual web browsing.

Eastern European hackers are praying the iPad becomes popular, because people WILL do their banking on them - it looks enough like a laptop, that people are going to forget it isn't...
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Old April 2 2010, 06:38 AM   #21
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Re: BOOM! A shot into the iPad's heart.

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Seriously, I don't think that the Kindle(s) are going to become roadkill instantly, but it's hard to fathom why somebody would choose a Kindle over the iPad, a one-trick-pony over a multi-talent?
The big difference is e-paper versus LCD. I haven't seen e-paper up close yet, but conceptually there's a big benefit to a device which can be read easily in bright sunlight and which has battery life measured in weeks rather than hours.

The lack of color is a problem, though.
The first time I saw e-paper I didn't realize I was looking at a live display. I was duly impressed.

That being said, I would miss color...not that most of my books have color beyond the cover.
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Old April 2 2010, 05:55 PM   #22
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Is E-paper like a paper thin computer display?
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Old April 2 2010, 06:21 PM   #23
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E-paper's the kind of display that the Kindle et al. use. It's designed to approximate the appearance of paper, versus, say, an LCD.

It really was fairly impressive.
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Old April 2 2010, 06:48 PM   #24
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So the iPad is a bit heavy for some people. I guess they've never read a hardback edition of some of Tom Clancy's novels....
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Old April 2 2010, 06:57 PM   #25
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^This is why I see a chiropractor.

Kidding.
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Old April 2 2010, 07:04 PM   #26
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e-paper is like an etch-a-sketch on steroids.
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Old April 2 2010, 07:08 PM   #27
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Apple has now made available the guided tours.

http://www.apple.com/ipad/guided-tours/

Avoiding the carpal tunnel syndrome (and the like) is included

Seriously, I don't think that the Kindle(s) are going to become roadkill instantly, but it's hard to fathom why somebody would choose a Kindle over the iPad, a one-trick-pony over a multi-talent?
I've had the same thought only in reverse. As much as the ipad appeals to my geek side, I thinking why in hell would I want to spend the money for an Ipad when I can get a 13 inch Macpro for not a whole lot more money?

As for the Kindle, I love mine and really like the e-ink feature. I really do believe it's much easier on my eyes than trying to read a LCD screen.
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Old April 2 2010, 07:11 PM   #28
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E-paper's the kind of display that the Kindle et al. use. It's designed to approximate the appearance of paper, versus, say, an LCD.

It really was fairly impressive.
I agree. I've seen a Kindle in action and it's actually really cool how much it looks like real paper. And it doesn't suffer from the glare you'd normally experience with a computer screen or an old-style monochrome liquid crystal setup.
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Old April 2 2010, 08:24 PM   #29
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I don't think it is a matter of it actually being heavy. It is more just an issue of getting tired from holding it a certain way for an extended amount of time. I've noticed it with my old video iPod.
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Old April 3 2010, 09:31 PM   #30
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I've held some heft books, laptops and things of that nature quite often. I just cannot comprehend a 24oz weight being anything to tire over.
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