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Old March 14 2010, 11:34 PM   #16
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Re: Warp speed and the 'star effect'

When you drive through a snow storm and the headlights illuminate the falling snow, it's kind of the same effect.
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Old March 15 2010, 04:23 AM   #17
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Re: Warp speed and the 'star effect'

I don't think Starfleet, by the time of Nemesis, had developed any ship capable of traveling at warp non stop for about 70 years.
It keeps Carol Anne very close to it and away from the spectral light. It lies to her. It says things only a child can understand. It has been using her to restrain the others.
To her it simply is another child. To us it is the beast.
Now let's go get your daughter.
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Old March 15 2010, 12:22 PM   #18
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Re: Warp speed and the 'star effect'

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For some kind of tech explanation, the deflector reaches out ahead of the ship. It pushes to the side particulate matter, cosmic rays and free hydrogen, so that the ship doesn't hit these things at hundreds of times the speed of light. Basically tunnels a hole that the ship flys down. But the warp drive field extends hundreds of meters, maybe several kilometer to the sides of the ship, all this stuff pushed to the side by the deflector passes through the warp drive field and that's what we see as streaks, the matter interacting with the structure of warp drive field. Outside the field it's warp eight, inside it's slower.

This explanation doesn't work for Where No One Has Gone Before unless the field is really really big.
i don't think so, not at this ludicrous speed could your eyes and brain single particles crushing into the warp field and passing by register, that might rather produce a constant glow. i believe the warp field produces an optical effect like a lens.
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Old March 20 2010, 03:52 AM   #19
Re: Warp speed and the 'star effect'

[technobabble]Throughout space, there are lots of bits of dust and junk. that's why they have navigational deflectors.

When you move rapidly towards an object, any light from it will be shifted in frequency. Thus, the radiation from the object of a lower frequncy than visible light will be shifted into visible light, causing it to become visible. Same thing for objects behind you, except it works on frequencies HIGHER than visible light.

So you aren't seeing stars, you are seeing bits of space debris made visible by the speed you are going at. [/technobabble]

In real life, the effect would be much weirder. The same doppler shift would occur, shifting everything into high frequency radition which would actually kill you. But because of relativistic effects, things behind you get twisted out in front of you. In fact, something in front of you would actually appear to be getting further away!
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Old March 20 2010, 09:40 AM   #20
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@Tiberius, I think my head just exploded
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Old March 20 2010, 11:36 AM   #21
Re: Warp speed and the 'star effect'

Try looking for an animation of it/ It's freakier than you can imagine!
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Old March 20 2010, 05:04 PM   #22
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Re: Warp speed and the 'star effect'

I just think its purty--and probably a better visual effect than having the ship fly through blackness with the only light being compressed dots located in the distance ahead and behind the ship...
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