SUPERMAN - Page 2

The Comedian · February 18 2010, 07:37 PM

Let's see...

"Batman Begins"....so...

"Superman Starts"

which will lead inevitably to...

"Wonder Woman Comes."

Nick Ryder · February 18 2010, 08:18 PM

I really really hope we don't get an origin retread. I mean what is it with these reboots retelling the origin. Batman Begins was okay because even the Burton/Shumacher Batman films didn't really get into it too terribly much, at least Batman's early days. So that was okay. Superman doesn't really need an origin to show how he went from baby to Superman. I mean if they really want to restart the mythology, they could always restart it from shortly before he puts the suit on and follows it from the time he comes on the scene. Basically put to film the classic Man of Steel #2 where Superman is named thus by Lois Lane but I'd like to keep the thing where Lois is scooped by Clark. And then maybe follow it forward with like Metallo or Lex - even though I'm sick of Lex in the movies, but I wouldn't even really mind seeing like a "City Under Seige" kind of thing where you could have a bunch of his rogues gallery show up and then reveal that Lex set it in motion, but Superman can't prove it and it ends with a bit of a cliff hanger at the end.

Captaindemotion · February 18 2010, 10:13 PM

You had 1966's Batman and 1989's Batman. You had Star Trek: The Motion Picure (1979) and Star Trek (2009). So why not Superman: The Movie (1978) and Superman (20--)? I think it would be a sensible way of putting clear blue water (or should that be Big Blue Water?) between this movie and its predecessors - make it clear it's not a sequel or prequel.

Delta1 · February 18 2010, 10:27 PM

RandyS wrote:

Just calling it SUPERMAN is too complicated. How about something simple, like:

SUPERMAN THE LAST SON OF KRYPTON THE MAN OF STEEL KAL-EL CLARK KENT?

Covers everything that way.

And the sequel can be THE ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN: THE MAN OF TOMORROW FROM ACTION COMICS PAL OF JIMMY OLSEN.

February 19 2010, 09:18 AM

If "SUPERMAN" isn't used...

[edit] My idea of a Superman trilogy.

LAST SON
MAN OF STEEL
DOOMSDAY

For each one of these you wouldn't even have to say "Superman..." just throw up the \S/hield behind the title...boom, there's your Superman movie poster.

FordSVT · February 19 2010, 08:39 PM

If they reboot Superman again, I also think they need to skip the origina story. Maybe do it through a montage during the opening credits and then have the opening scene move straight into Superman or Clark as an adult, all settled in and ready for an adventure.

WE ALREADY KNOW HE'S FROM KRYPTON THAT WENT BOOM AND GREW UP ON A FARM.

SalvorHardin · February 19 2010, 10:33 PM

Just Superman is fine by me.

What's not fine is that we may have to go through a freaking origin story yet again.

DonnyBaker · February 20 2010, 01:38 AM

The Comedian wrote:

Let's see...

"Batman Begins"....so...

"Superman Starts"

which will lead inevitably to...

"Wonder Woman Comes."

YESSS!!!!

Admiral_Young · February 23 2010, 07:17 AM

Why is that whenever we have a thread on a Superman movie that it inevitably turns into a "they better not have an origin story" discussion? Ugh. Anyways I have no problem with them using "Superman" as a film title. Nor do I have a problem with them using a subtitle if it's something like "Man of Steel" or "Last Son" etc like has been suggested. I just have a problem with studios using subtitles on projects that the majority of people know because they think we don't know what the movie is supposed to be about.

The Borgified Corpse · February 23 2010, 08:39 AM

I'd rather they included a subtitle to it. Even if it's not a sequel to anything, there's still precedent for having the 1st film of a series use a subtitle. SEE G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra, The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, Percy Jackson & the Olympians: The Lightning Thief, Pirates of the Carribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl, Cirque du Freak: The Vampire's Assistant.

I'd go with Superman: The Man of Steel or Superman: Last Son of Krypton.

Frankly, I'm really bugged by the lack of subtitle in the new Star Trek movie. It makes it more difficult to easily reference it in a discussion with the other 10 movies.

Captaindemotion · February 23 2010, 04:21 PM

But how many people actually call any of those movies by their full title? Certainly, in cinemas, people just ask for tickets to 'Pirates of the Carribean' or 'GI Joe' or 'Wolverine', I've yet to hear anyone say the full names.

God knows how long it would take the queues to disperse if they did ...

Checkmate · February 23 2010, 04:40 PM

I'd love a Superman movie that actually focuses on the character, isn't an origin story, and isn't a rehash of the shitty movies and television series (not including the animated series; they actually got it right). No "deconstruction" of the character, no "reimagining" him as a gothic dweeb with a suit in a can, no hot pink kryptonite that turns him into a flaming homosexual, etc. Just a real Superman story with the real Superman character being a real superhero.

I'd even be okay with another Lex Luthor story (preferably as the businessman or president versions), though it's high time some of his other villains got the limelight. Sure, his Rogue's Gallery isn't as awesome as Batman's, but he has some cool ones hidden in there. Brainiac (particularly the animated series version) and Bizarro (ditto) are two that come to mind, though the "Hollywood" types would probably prefer someone shiny and "cool" like Metallo or something.

Lois Lane should just be the damsel in distress that she's supposed to be, not the lead character with Superman being a pussy-whipped, bastard-fathering stalker in the background. Jimmy Olsen could use some updating; I thought Lois & Clark did a good job in that respect, though it needs to go farther. And for the love of God, they don't need any other "last sons of Krypton" floating around (with Brainiac being a notable exception).

jadcox@mindspring.com · February 23 2010, 09:37 PM

I still like the old rumored title from way back in the mid 90s ... Superman: New Genesis.

Captaindemotion · February 23 2010, 09:47 PM

^ Wherein Superman replaces Phil Collins.

Admiral Buzzkill · February 23 2010, 09:50 PM

The Superman origin story is the Superman story, period. That's why it gets retold over and over - if there's anything like an actual legend or folklore associated with Supes, it's the story about the rocket and adoption and growing up on a farm and going out into the world. It's John Henry and the steam drill; it's Robin Hood and the archery contest.

February 18 2010, 07:37 PM	#16
The Comedian Captain	Re: SUPERMAN Let's see... "Batman Begins"....so... "Superman Starts" which will lead inevitably to... "Wonder Woman Comes." __________________ The American Dream? You're looking at it.

February 18 2010, 08:18 PM	#17
Nick Ryder Fleet Captain Location: Milwaukee, WI Da Brew City	Re: SUPERMAN I really really hope we don't get an origin retread. I mean what is it with these reboots retelling the origin. Batman Begins was okay because even the Burton/Shumacher Batman films didn't really get into it too terribly much, at least Batman's early days. So that was okay. Superman doesn't really need an origin to show how he went from baby to Superman. I mean if they really want to restart the mythology, they could always restart it from shortly before he puts the suit on and follows it from the time he comes on the scene. Basically put to film the classic Man of Steel #2 where Superman is named thus by Lois Lane but I'd like to keep the thing where Lois is scooped by Clark. And then maybe follow it forward with like Metallo or Lex - even though I'm sick of Lex in the movies, but I wouldn't even really mind seeing like a "City Under Seige" kind of thing where you could have a bunch of his rogues gallery show up and then reveal that Lex set it in motion, but Superman can't prove it and it ends with a bit of a cliff hanger at the end. __________________ "Here you are in the club with your bottle full of Bud, you got grillz you got bling, but playa you don't know a thing..." Alice Cooper - Disco Bloodbath Boogie Fever

February 18 2010, 10:13 PM	#18
Captaindemotion Vice Admiral Location: Ireland	Re: SUPERMAN You had 1966's Batman and 1989's Batman. You had Star Trek: The Motion Picure (1979) and Star Trek (2009). So why not Superman: The Movie (1978) and Superman (20--)? I think it would be a sensible way of putting clear blue water (or should that be Big Blue Water?) between this movie and its predecessors - make it clear it's not a sequel or prequel. __________________ Hodor!!!!!!!

February 19 2010, 09:18 AM	#20
Jetfire Guest	Re: SUPERMAN If "SUPERMAN" isn't used... [edit] My idea of a Superman trilogy. LAST SON MAN OF STEEL DOOMSDAY For each one of these you wouldn't even have to say "Superman..." just throw up the \S/hield behind the title...boom, there's your Superman movie poster.

February 19 2010, 08:39 PM	#21
FordSVT Vice Admiral Location: Atlantic Canada	Re: SUPERMAN If they reboot Superman again, I also think they need to skip the origina story. Maybe do it through a montage during the opening credits and then have the opening scene move straight into Superman or Clark as an adult, all settled in and ready for an adventure. WE ALREADY KNOW HE'S FROM KRYPTON THAT WENT BOOM AND GREW UP ON A FARM. __________________ -FordSVT-

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February 19 2010, 10:33 PM	#22
SalvorHardin Rear Admiral Location: Star's End	Re: SUPERMAN Just Superman is fine by me. What's not fine is that we may have to go through a freaking origin story yet again. __________________ www.youtube.com/user/SalvorSeldon

February 23 2010, 07:17 AM	#24
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: SUPERMAN Why is that whenever we have a thread on a Superman movie that it inevitably turns into a "they better not have an origin story" discussion? Ugh. Anyways I have no problem with them using "Superman" as a film title. Nor do I have a problem with them using a subtitle if it's something like "Man of Steel" or "Last Son" etc like has been suggested. I just have a problem with studios using subtitles on projects that the majority of people know because they think we don't know what the movie is supposed to be about. __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

February 23 2010, 08:39 AM	#25
The Borgified Corpse Admiral Location: Making closing arguments with Jack McCoy & Michael Cutter	Re: SUPERMAN I'd rather they included a subtitle to it. Even if it's not a sequel to anything, there's still precedent for having the 1st film of a series use a subtitle. SEE G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra, The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, Percy Jackson & the Olympians: The Lightning Thief, Pirates of the Carribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl, Cirque du Freak: The Vampire's Assistant. I'd go with Superman: The Man of Steel or Superman: Last Son of Krypton. Frankly, I'm really bugged by the lack of subtitle in the new Star Trek movie. It makes it more difficult to easily reference it in a discussion with the other 10 movies. __________________ Kegg: "You're a Trekkie. The capacity to quibble over the minutiae of space opera films is your birthright."

February 23 2010, 04:21 PM	#26
Captaindemotion Vice Admiral Location: Ireland	Re: SUPERMAN But how many people actually call any of those movies by their full title? Certainly, in cinemas, people just ask for tickets to 'Pirates of the Carribean' or 'GI Joe' or 'Wolverine', I've yet to hear anyone say the full names. God knows how long it would take the queues to disperse if they did ... __________________ Hodor!!!!!!!

February 23 2010, 04:40 PM	#27
Checkmate Commodore	Re: SUPERMAN I'd love a Superman movie that actually focuses on the character, isn't an origin story, and isn't a rehash of the shitty movies and television series (not including the animated series; they actually got it right). No "deconstruction" of the character, no "reimagining" him as a gothic dweeb with a suit in a can, no hot pink kryptonite that turns him into a flaming homosexual, etc. Just a real Superman story with the real Superman character being a real superhero. I'd even be okay with another Lex Luthor story (preferably as the businessman or president versions), though it's high time some of his other villains got the limelight. Sure, his Rogue's Gallery isn't as awesome as Batman's, but he has some cool ones hidden in there. Brainiac (particularly the animated series version) and Bizarro (ditto) are two that come to mind, though the "Hollywood" types would probably prefer someone shiny and "cool" like Metallo or something. Lois Lane should just be the damsel in distress that she's supposed to be, not the lead character with Superman being a pussy-whipped, bastard-fathering stalker in the background. Jimmy Olsen could use some updating; I thought Lois & Clark did a good job in that respect, though it needs to go farther. And for the love of God, they don't need any other "last sons of Krypton" floating around (with Brainiac being a notable exception).

February 23 2010, 09:37 PM	#28
jadcox@mindspring.com Commodore Location: Atlanta, GA 30307	Re: SUPERMAN I still like the old rumored title from way back in the mid 90s ... Superman: New Genesis. __________________ _ _ ____ _ _ Mythology, Literature, Writing, and more! Review Blog My book!

February 23 2010, 09:47 PM	#29
Captaindemotion Vice Admiral Location: Ireland	Re: SUPERMAN ^ Wherein Superman replaces Phil Collins. __________________ Hodor!!!!!!!

February 23 2010, 09:50 PM	#30
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: SUPERMAN The Superman origin story is the Superman story, period. That's why it gets retold over and over - if there's anything like an actual legend or folklore associated with Supes, it's the story about the rocket and adoption and growing up on a farm and going out into the world. It's John Henry and the steam drill; it's Robin Hood and the archery contest. __________________ I had steak and a loaded baked potato for dinner on Sunday. As a steak I enjoyed it a lot, but as macaroni and cheese I thought it was disappointing.