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Old February 7 2010, 06:57 AM   #61
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If a Brit is cast as Captain America, I hope he can do a better American accent than Gerard Butler or Colin Farrell.
Well considering one is Irish and the other one is Scottish, them being Brits posing as yanks would be difficult, but semantics.
Gerard Butler is a Brit.
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Old February 7 2010, 08:42 AM   #62
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If a Brit is cast as Captain America, I hope he can do a better American accent than Gerard Butler or Colin Farrell.
Well considering one is Irish and the other one is Scottish, them being Brits posing as yanks would be difficult, but semantics.
Gerard Butler is a Brit.
he was born in scotland, he's got a scottish accent. how does that make him a Brit? Unless he lives there, but come on. I'm only going off his wikipedia page and IMDB, which says he was born in Paisley, Scotland. I've even seen him do an interview on the Craig Ferguson show, saying so. But you could be right man, although I beg to differ.
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Old February 7 2010, 08:47 AM   #63
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If a Brit is cast as Captain America, I hope he can do a better American accent than Gerard Butler or Colin Farrell.
Well considering one is Irish and the other one is Scottish, them being Brits posing as yanks would be difficult, but semantics.
You know, as soon as I used the term "Brit," I knew someone would come along and confuse it with "Englishman." Congratulations on being first!
haha i didnt realize there was a difference. I didn't know you didn't have to be British to be a Brit. My bad people!
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Old February 7 2010, 08:48 AM   #64
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Well considering one is Irish and the other one is Scottish, them being Brits posing as yanks would be difficult, but semantics.
Gerard Butler is a Brit.
he was born in scotland, he's got a scottish accent. how does that make him a Brit? Unless he lives there, but come on. I'm only going off his wikipedia page and IMDB, which says he was born in Paisley, Scotland. I've even seen him do an interview on the Craig Ferguson show, saying so. But you could be right man, although I beg to differ.
Scots are British citizens as they live in the United Kingdom of Great Britan (aka England, Scotland and Wales) and Northern Ireland
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Old February 7 2010, 08:51 AM   #65
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ahhh ok. That's right! i forgot about the whole UK collective. many apologies. I've heard Gerard Butler's name being tossed around to play Caps too. I've always saw him playing somebody like Black Tom in the X-Men Universe. With somebody like Cillian Murphey playing Banshee, although he might be too young.
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Old February 7 2010, 07:43 PM   #66
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If a Brit is cast as Captain America, I hope he can do a better American accent than Gerard Butler or Colin Farrell.
Well considering one is Irish and the other one is Scottish, them being Brits posing as yanks would be difficult, but semantics.
You know, as soon as I used the term "Brit," I knew someone would come along and confuse it with "Englishman." Congratulations on being first!
'Brit' comes from British. Butler is Scottish, part of Great Britain, and therefore qualified. Colin Farrell comes from the Republic of Ireland and does not therefore qualify as a Brit by any standard or reckoning. The confusion is entirely yours.
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Old February 7 2010, 08:08 PM   #67
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Well considering one is Irish and the other one is Scottish, them being Brits posing as yanks would be difficult, but semantics.
You know, as soon as I used the term "Brit," I knew someone would come along and confuse it with "Englishman." Congratulations on being first!
'Brit' comes from British. Butler is Scottish, part of Great Britain, and therefore qualified. Colin Farrell comes from the Republic of Ireland and does not therefore qualify as a Brit by any standard or reckoning. The confusion is entirely yours.
Ireland is one of the "British Isles".

You're welcome.

EDIT: Yes, although this post does contain a true factoid, it is in fact meant in jest.
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Old February 7 2010, 08:15 PM   #68
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Well considering one is Irish and the other one is Scottish, them being Brits posing as yanks would be difficult, but semantics.
You know, as soon as I used the term "Brit," I knew someone would come along and confuse it with "Englishman." Congratulations on being first!
'Brit' comes from British. Butler is Scottish, part of Great Britain, and therefore qualified. Colin Farrell comes from the Republic of Ireland and does not therefore qualify as a Brit by any standard or reckoning. The confusion is entirely yours.
Hardly. Take a moment to read my precise words again. I didn't call Colin Farrell a "Brit" or British (and I wouldn't call any Irishman a "Brit" to his face, for fear of getting my ass kicked). I said that Farrell is weak when it comes to speaking with an American accent. Any additional implications are all in your mind.
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Old February 7 2010, 08:53 PM   #69
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Just take away the lame "First Avenger" bullshit, and I'll be happy.
They've got to have a title they can successfully promote overseas, because they can't make the money they want to based only on domestic American box office. And "America" does not mean many good things throughout most of the world.
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Old February 7 2010, 08:57 PM   #70
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Isn't that what having different titles overseas is for? Some countries know of Jack Palance's Oscar-winning performance from "Life, Love and Cows."
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Isn't that what having different titles overseas is for? Some countries know of Jack Palance's Oscar-winning performance from "Life, Love and Cows."
Sure, but promotion is probably easier if "First Avenger" can be used all over the place.
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Just take away the lame "First Avenger" bullshit, and I'll be happy.
They've got to have a title they can successfully promote overseas, because they can't make the money they want to based only on domestic American box office. And "America" does not mean many good things throughout most of the world.
"Most of the world"? How do you know?
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You know, as soon as I used the term "Brit," I knew someone would come along and confuse it with "Englishman." Congratulations on being first!
'Brit' comes from British. Butler is Scottish, part of Great Britain, and therefore qualified. Colin Farrell comes from the Republic of Ireland and does not therefore qualify as a Brit by any standard or reckoning. The confusion is entirely yours.
Ireland is one of the "British Isles".
No it's not. That's a term which has no legal, historical or geographical basis. If it has any definition, it's Great Britain, the Isle of Man, the Channel Islands and the Islands off Scotland, the Shetlands etc. Not Ireland.

And we in Ireland simply don't like it.

As Bad Bishop pointed out in his reply to me, he wouldn't call an Irishman a Brit to his face for fear of getting his ass kicked.

BB, in the context of your post, it was reasonable to assume that you were lumping Farrell in with the Brits. But I note your clarification.
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Old February 7 2010, 11:04 PM   #74
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No it's not.
Yes it is. Sorry to burst your bubble.

That's a term which has no legal, historical or geographical basis.
That part is laughably indefensible.

And we in Ireland simply don't like it.
That's the spirit!
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Old February 7 2010, 11:10 PM   #75
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No it's not. That's a term which has no legal, historical or geographical basis.
Wikipedia, among others, would disagree at there being no "historical or geographic basis". It's certainly, though, a term that's fallen out of use subsequent to the assocation of "Britain" exclusively with the UK and the independence of the Republic of Ireland. Not wholly different from Canadians and Mexicans being "American" in the sense of the American continent, in that it's technically true but has issues due to the association with the USA (usually somebody would say "North American").

Some big news, on an actual movie-related front.

Counting Cap and Bucky, that's four members left; Union Jack's a given (John or Brian, I wonder?), he's of a similar powerset and makes an obvious counterpoint to Cap himself. Don't know about the rest (they're described as being representatives of European countries, which the Invaders never really were in the comics; foreign membership was primarily two Brits and an Atlantean; maybe they're planning to make up a few new characters to represent France, Poland, or wherever?).

I'll be interested to see if they're planning to bring in other characters with genuine super-powers. I mean, if the Brits have a chick who can run at the speed of sound, how impressive does that really make Steve look? Conversely, having such obviously superhuman people might give Steve a chance to demonstrate just how important he is, even if he's not the most physically powerful
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