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Battlestar Galactica & Caprica This forum was created by man. It rebelled. It evolved. And it has a plan.

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Old January 25 2010, 04:30 AM   #331
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Well, I sure hope Billy Adama doesn't die, because if so, we all just spoilered ourselves something fierce.
"Adama is a Cylon"
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Old January 25 2010, 04:42 AM   #332
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Maybe the real Bill Adama did go into the matrix and eventually became a cylon. The Bill Adama we know could be any random child Joseph took in later and renamed William. Wouldn't that be something?
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Old January 25 2010, 05:04 AM   #333
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"Adama is a Cylon"
...is right!

Dorian Thompson wrote: View Post
Maybe the real Bill Adama did go into the matrix and eventually became a cylon. The Bill Adama we know could be any random child Joseph took in later and renamed William. Wouldn't that be something?
Yes, that would be something, and I agree that it would help solve the age problem.



Too much speculation. Let's see if this actually comes to pass.
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Old January 25 2010, 05:47 AM   #334
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Something shocking's going to come to pass around midseason-ish, if both that article and Esai Morales aren't blowing smoke. I don't know why they'd make it up. We shall see.
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Old January 25 2010, 06:53 AM   #335
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Maybe the real Bill Adama did go into the matrix and eventually became a cylon. The Bill Adama we know could be any random child Joseph took in later and renamed William. Wouldn't that be something?
ADAMA: "I can't let William die again!"

ASTRID: "What did you just say?"
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Old January 25 2010, 11:38 AM   #336
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Maybe the real Bill Adama did go into the matrix and eventually became a cylon. The Bill Adama we know could be any random child Joseph took in later and renamed William. Wouldn't that be something?
ADAMA: "I can't let William die again!"

ASTRID: "What did you just say?"
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Old January 26 2010, 04:20 AM   #337
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Well, I sure hope Billy Adama doesn't die, because if so, we all just spoilered ourselves something fierce.
It's not really a spoiler when it's speculation...

And I've found the stuff I think will happen usually doesn't.
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Old February 2 2010, 10:10 PM   #338
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"Above Average": Definitely enjoyed it, and I think the show has a lot of potential. Some scenes in particular towards the end were fascinating, I thought.

Having said that it didn't quite grab me the way nuBSG did back in the day. But I'm still very much looking forward to following it and seeing how it develops. I certainly hope it will get a shot at a full run.
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Old February 3 2010, 09:22 AM   #339
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It's a common conceit in Sci-Fi that AIs need to be transferred, as opposed to copied. It happens all the time in movies, shows, novels, video games...
If they're using memory that is based on quantum computing principles where entanglement is used to transfer data, I guess you can sort of rationalise away the inability to make a copy.
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Old February 3 2010, 10:30 AM   #340
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I enjoy Caprica more than seasons 3 and 4 of Battlestar Galactica and it tackles its subject matter in a way that I think is superior to the first two seasons of Galactica: strife, religious conflict, and terrorism. Also, unlike on BSG, artificial intelligence actually feels to me like it's artificial intelligence.

I don't know if there's multiple seasons worth of material here but I'm going to enjoy it while it lasts.
 
Old February 3 2010, 12:56 PM   #341
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I didn't watch the version that Sky broadcast in the UK, but I've viewed the region 1 DVD. I hear the breast content was edited out. If anyone has seen both versions, was anything substantive omitted that might affect future plot developments?

There is a deleted nightclub scene on the DVD that I wasn't sure whether it was excluded for reasons of drama or plot. It'll be interestering to see which as the season unfolds.
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Old February 4 2010, 12:34 AM   #342
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The re-edited version eliminated the nudity, which really isn't a big deal. It seemed ready to be subtracted in the DVD version anyway. In addition, it includes several new wide shots which expand the world of Caprica a great deal, as well as a completely new version of the scene where Joseph, Willy, and Daniel watch the C-Bucks. Zoe's line about the storage capacity of the human brain has also been re-dubbed, to a more believable number.
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Old February 4 2010, 01:15 AM   #343
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I enjoy Caprica more than seasons 3 and 4 of Battlestar Galactica .
This I can definitely agree with. Maybe it's because it's new. Maybe it's because it's more comfortable calling itself a "soapy" series. Maybe it's the story itself. But Caprica's first two episodes are more enjoyable than most of nuBSG's seasons 3 & 4 (a few individual episodes -- "Sometimes A Great Notion" for example -- notwithstanding).
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Old February 4 2010, 01:30 AM   #344
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It's really a shame what happened to BSG in its 3rd and 4th seasons. It went so far downhill with an occasional episodic exception. After the new Caprica escape....it faltered. Keeping Caprica character based will be a saving grace, I hope.
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Old February 4 2010, 10:49 PM   #345
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Having seen the first two episodes ondamand... I am not sure how I feel about it yet.

The sweeping visuals are good for a TV show, kind of reminds me of the short lived Kings on NBC, and the writing isn't bad.

That said... I like the idea of showing how the cylon's were created and that could build into the cylon uprising and first war. Slowly building to that is fine with me as long as there is a real driving plot and decent writing and characters. So far the plot is a little weak to me, just because so far it is based on teenage angist. Not something I really give a crap about now, or in a gaxely far far away and sometime in the past. However, it is is a pretty intresting show so far, I will watch it to see where it goes; it has pretty decent potential. I also like the underlying "racism" between the different colonies. It could provide some believeable extra-plot drama.

But just so I get it... the first cylon centurian is a pissed off 'quasi-terrorist' teenage girl?
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