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Old January 15 2010, 03:17 AM   #46
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The miniseries has the best Baron harkonnen, IMO. Ian McNeice is brilliant in the role.
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Old January 15 2010, 04:22 AM   #47
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I think I'm going to have to watch the mini again now.
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Old January 15 2010, 04:37 AM   #48
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The miniseries pretty much discarded the Hawat subplot. I didn't notice its absence.
Jogging my foggy memory, you mean Thufir Hawat? I'm pretty sure the miniseries just kills him off during the initial Harkonnen attack. Like the loss of the 'Usul' name, it's a wise choice in simplifying the material for the screen, I think.
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Old January 15 2010, 05:48 AM   #49
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Not a huge loss in that case as the casting of Thufir was totally forgettable. The movie Thufir on the other hand was right out of the book. Same goes for the guy who played Duncan in the first mini, I recall he was killed off rather quickly and unremarkably. A bit of a pain since in the book, I rather though his death was a pivotal moment...plus I REALLY wanted to see that lasgun/shield explosion he caused and the artillery strikes on the sheild wall. None of the adaptions to date have really gotten that part of the book quite right. The scene immediately before Thufir's capture for example says volumes about what the Fremen were about and exactly how much they pissed off the Sardaukar. Plus of course there was supposed to have been a planetwide pogrom in full swing by the time they met up with Duncan.
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Old January 15 2010, 06:43 AM   #50
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I don't really like the downplaying of Caladan and Thufir and Duncan in the miniseries, but that's really my only gripe.
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Old January 15 2010, 07:14 AM   #51
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I don't really like the downplaying of Caladan and Thufir and Duncan in the miniseries, but that's really my only gripe.
Didn't Duncan have a prominent role in Children of Dune?
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Old January 15 2010, 07:20 AM   #52
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Yes he did. Duncan is pretty much Children of Dune's main character... I think he's the main character of the whole saga, really.
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Old January 15 2010, 05:37 PM   #53
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I started the book last night. I only got a few pages into it though.
Sorry to keep asking all these questions, but I promise these will be the last two. I was just wondering which book(s) is/are your favorite(s), and who your favorite character(s) is/are.
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Old January 15 2010, 05:38 PM   #54
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I think Gurney's my favorite, but that may be influenced by his portrayal in the two Scifi minis. (Surprisingly, Patrick Stewart's version didn't have much effect on me.)
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Old January 16 2010, 01:44 AM   #55
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Yes he did. Duncan is pretty much Children of Dune's main character... I think he's the main character of the whole saga, really.
Well, he does appear in every book except for the Butlerian Jihad Trilogy.
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Old January 16 2010, 02:01 AM   #56
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Well I like Heretics and Chapterhosue better than God Emperor...
I liked them all, but ya, Chapterhouse and Heretics were great.

God, it'd been years since i've read the series. Even though i read a lot of teen sci-fi, like L'engle, Adams, and Monica Hughes, Dune was my first adult introduction to Sci-fi. I read them when i was 18 and then a dozen times since then. I think im about due for another read through.
Other then the first mini series i have never watched any Dune movies.
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Old January 16 2010, 02:20 AM   #57
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Favorite book: God Emperor of Dune
Favorite character: Leto II by a hair over Duncan Idaho
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Old January 16 2010, 02:45 AM   #58
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So does Duncan play a bigger role in the books than he did in the Lynch movie? Because I keep hearing his name here and on wikipedia, but he was only in 2 scenes of the movie.
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Old January 16 2010, 02:47 AM   #59
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yes.
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Old January 16 2010, 02:55 AM   #60
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To be fair, he doesn't play a large role in the first book, does he? He has more than two scenes, but he's killed off early in the middle section, isn't he?
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