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Old January 12 2010, 01:54 AM   #16
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Re: Dune newbie questions

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The Sci-Fi Dune mini-series is worth going through just to get to their Children of Dune mini-series. (It covers 'Dune Messiah' and 'Children of Dune' books)

It is by far the best adaptation of Herbert's books.
I agree.

In production quality, if by FAR made up for how low-rent the first Scifi Channel "Dune" mini was...

(You can actually see they are clearly using *backdrops* in the desert scenes in the first mini...CoD actually used CGI desert scenes...and the music - the music is *awesome*...)
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Old January 12 2010, 02:19 AM   #17
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The Sci-Fi minis are the best adaptations of Dune. I would only suggest the Lynch film if you are a Dune completist and want to see another intrepretation of the novel.

In regards to the order to read the novels, I read them in the order they were published, and that seems to me the best way.
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Old January 12 2010, 02:52 AM   #18
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Re: Dune newbie questions

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Hyperspace05 wrote: View Post
The Sci-Fi Dune mini-series is worth going through just to get to their Children of Dune mini-series. (It covers 'Dune Messiah' and 'Children of Dune' books)

It is by far the best adaptation of Herbert's books.
I agree.

In production quality, if by FAR made up for how low-rent the first Scifi Channel "Dune" mini was...

(You can actually see they are clearly using *backdrops* in the desert scenes in the first mini...CoD actually used CGI desert scenes...and the music - the music is *awesome*...)
Really? I was kinda nervous about it since the condensed 774 pages (336 for CM and 408 for CoD) into one miniseries.
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Old January 12 2010, 03:01 AM   #19
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Really? I was kinda nervous about it since the condensed 774 pages (336 for CM and 408 for CoD) into one miniseries.
It doesn't matter. It is the best adaptation. Plus it has an amazing soundtrack.
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Old January 12 2010, 03:50 AM   #20
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(You can actually see they are clearly using *backdrops* in the desert scenes in the first mini...
The use of backdrops is not uncommon; Stargate SG-1 did it all the time. But the real problem was that the sand they ordered for the set arrived in the wrong color, so it didn't match the backdrops, and they didn't have the time or money to replace it.

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Really? I was kinda nervous about it since the condensed 774 pages (336 for CM and 408 for CoD) into one miniseries.
CoD Part 1 is essentially Dune Messiah; parts 2 and 3 are the actual Children of Dune story.

They do condense a few things, but it works. Reading the books does add texture and complexity to some of the miniseries scenes, though.

Besides, it's got Alice Krige!

As for the music, a disproportionate number of movie trailers over the past few years have used music from Children of Dune, because the music just screams "EPIC" in every way. Even Star Trek's trailer did.
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Old January 12 2010, 06:33 AM   #21
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^Yeah, if it's got Alice Krige in it it can't be all bad... especially if Susan Sarandon is in it too.
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Old January 12 2010, 07:41 AM   #22
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The use of backdrops (translights, actually) was an intentional choice in the first miniseries. Styalistically, they wanted it to look theatrical.
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Old January 12 2010, 09:47 AM   #23
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Read the originals, then use anything with Brian Herbert on the cover for toilet paper.
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Old January 13 2010, 02:55 AM   #24
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The use of backdrops (translights, actually) was an intentional choice in the first miniseries. Styalistically, they wanted it to look theatrical.
Which was in itself the biggest, most fundamental mistake they made. Fortunately they learned from that and didn't repeat it.

As for reading the books, I'd recommend just sticking to the order they were published. Though after you're done with Frank's work, be prepared for a drastic (and it appears, accumulative) drop in quality.
Not that Brian and Kevin are BAD exactly, just lacing in subtlety. They have a tendency to spell out every single plot point, spending whole chapters describing what Frank would only imply in a sentence or two and yet leave you far more intrigued, satisfied and much less bored and vaguely patronised.
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Old January 13 2010, 07:43 AM   #25
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I don't know if they learned from that. But Harrison couldn't be scheduled to direct the second miniseries, so they brought in somebody else. Who was, by far, better. Harrison still wrote the script, though, which was quite good.
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Old January 13 2010, 07:13 PM   #26
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Does anyon know why they have Children of Dune on both ITunes and Amazon's Video on Deman, but not the Dune miniseries? It seems weird to me that they would have the second one but not the first. I know you guys have said it isn't very good, but I'm thinking about watching the David Lynch movie. I'm just really curious to compare the two versions.
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Old January 13 2010, 07:16 PM   #27
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Not sure, but I think different companies have the rights.. I could be wrong though.
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Old January 13 2010, 07:55 PM   #28
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Watch both! (The Lynch film and the mini-series)

The miniseries should be available for dirt cheap now.
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Old January 13 2010, 10:29 PM   #29
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Does anyon know why they have Children of Dune on both ITunes and Amazon's Video on Deman, but not the Dune miniseries? It seems weird to me that they would have the second one but not the first. I know you guys have said it isn't very good, but I'm thinking about watching the David Lynch movie. I'm just really curious to compare the two versions.

You're gonna read the book first, right?
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Old January 13 2010, 11:09 PM   #30
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If you do watch the miniseries, make sure it's the director's cut (the international version) and not the shorter, censored version that was shown on the Sci-Fi Channel in the United States.
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