TOS-Remastered: a waste of time - Page 12

ST-One · January 11 2010, 05:38 PM

seigezunt wrote:

Forbin wrote:

Therin of Andor wrote:

We should insist that the technology should not be allowed to advance?

We should insist that players for past formats remain available at a reasonable cost, forever.

Damn right!

I wanna be able to play my wax cylinders!

Doug Otte · January 11 2010, 05:40 PM

ST-One wrote:

Nothing got lost.
The original versions are still available. They are also on the Blu Rays.

Are we sure about that? It's already been reported that a shot of Spock's tricorder from CotEoF has only the enhanced version. Maybe there are other shots where they inadvertantly didn't provide the original footage.

Personally, I didn't notice the above change, but I'm just pointing out that there's the possibility of original footage not being available on the blu-rays.

Doug

Captain Robert April · January 11 2010, 08:02 PM

seigezunt wrote:

Forbin wrote:

Therin of Andor wrote:

We should insist that the technology should not be allowed to advance?

We should insist that players for past formats remain available at a reasonable cost, forever.

Damn right!

I wanna be able to play my wax cylinders!

I know of a lovely little shop in San Bernardino that has lots of antique cylinder players. Those with heart conditions should make sure they've taken their medication before visiting.

Forbin · January 11 2010, 09:35 PM

T'ain't funny if you actually HAVE some old family wax cylinders, and can't play them.

seigezunt · January 11 2010, 09:41 PM

Forbin wrote:

T'ain't funny if you actually HAVE some old family wax cylinders, and can't play them.

Same goes for my porn collection...on Betamax.

ST-One · January 11 2010, 10:28 PM

Doug Otte wrote:

ST-One wrote:

Nothing got lost.
The original versions are still available. They are also on the Blu Rays.

Are we sure about that? It's already been reported that a shot of Spock's tricorder from CotEoF has only the enhanced version. Maybe there are other shots where they inadvertantly didn't provide the original footage.

Personally, I didn't notice the above change, but I'm just pointing out that there's the possibility of original footage not being available on the blu-rays.

Doug

To be perfectly honest: I can live with that.

Hambone · January 11 2010, 10:31 PM

Forbin wrote:

T'ain't funny if you actually HAVE some old family wax cylinders, and can't play them.

Or super-8 movies, or 8-track tapes, or slides.

Therin of Andor · January 11 2010, 11:37 PM

Hambone wrote:

Or super-8 movies, or 8-track tapes, or slides.

A friend of mine still has a collection of amazing videos taped on a Grundig machine, a step up from reel-to-reel, and a handy sized cartridge - much smaller than a U-matic cassette - but Grundig tech was the first casualty of the Beta vs VHS war. Unwatchable from the moment her Grundig machine broke down.

Captain Robert April · January 11 2010, 11:48 PM

seigezunt wrote:

Forbin wrote:

T'ain't funny if you actually HAVE some old family wax cylinders, and can't play them.

Same goes for my porn collection...on Betamax.

Well, that's just poor investing.

hofner · January 12 2010, 12:33 AM

seigezunt wrote:

Forbin wrote:

Therin of Andor wrote:

We should insist that the technology should not be allowed to advance?

We should insist that players for past formats remain available at a reasonable cost, forever.

Damn right!

I wanna be able to play my wax cylinders!

I refused to buy a wax cylinder player because it wouldn't play my sheet music and piano player rolls. I won't fall for Edison's scam to force me to buy that music all over again.

Seriously though, I do sympathize with Forbin.

Robert

seigezunt · January 12 2010, 01:50 AM

Meh, I bought laser discs. I knew what I was in for.

Captain Robert April · January 12 2010, 02:37 AM

I've actually thought of picking up a laserdisc player and some discs, since they've gotten so cheap lately....

MANT! · January 12 2010, 04:59 AM

There is a solution...

http://hometheater.about.com/od/lase...sertodvd_2.htm

With some DVD recorders going for less than $100 and a used but workable Laserdisc player..you CAN convert those to the DVD format...

Forbin · January 12 2010, 02:01 PM

goldbug wrote:

There is a solution...

http://hometheater.about.com/od/lase...sertodvd_2.htm

With some DVD recorders going for less than $100 and a used but workable Laserdisc player..you CAN convert those to the DVD format...

You missed the part of my rant where I said not to give me some techno-elite response like "all you have to do is transfer them..."

I-Am-Zim · January 12 2010, 06:08 PM

I'm probably one of the few who wish they had gone even further with the remastering. I have all three seasons of TOS on DVD, both the original and remastered. I can watch either whenever I choose. I prefer the remastered version to the original simply because the picture quality is lightyears better. I watch them on a 42 inch, Magnavox HD plasma TV with a 500-watt 5.1 channel surround unit. I usually watch the episodes in "cinema" mode so that they fill the screen without being horizontally stretched. It is a truely awesome experience. In some cases, I do wish they had gone farther with the updating of the effects. I would have liked to have seen better transporter effects. In some TOS-R episodes, you can still see the matte lines around the characters during transport. I also wish that some of the screen displays would have been updated. One that comes to mind is the scene in WNMHGB when Spock is reading about Mitchell and Dehner. It would have looked much better if that had been updated to a more modern looking computer screen display instead of old typing paper projections. But that's just my opinion. They could have done so much more. But I think they held back so that the transitions between new/old effects wouldn't be so obvious. But I still love the original too. I can and do live with both.

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January 12 2010, 01:50 AM	#176
seigezunt Vice Admiral Location: Splashing on some Tiberius before a night on the town	Re: TOS-Remastered: a waste of time Meh, I bought laser discs. I knew what I was in for. __________________ I am constantly surprised by the close-mindedness of some fans...this means change as well as a positive attitude. Without those things, how can we ever achieve that Trek future we enjoyed so much on TV? --Bjo Trimble

January 12 2010, 02:37 AM	#177
Captain Robert April Vice Admiral Location: In selfless service to fandom, on the road to becoming a Star Trek trivia god...	Re: TOS-Remastered: a waste of time I've actually thought of picking up a laserdisc player and some discs, since they've gotten so cheap lately....

January 12 2010, 04:59 AM	#178
MANT! Rear Admiral Location: Mare Island Naval Shipyard	Re: TOS-Remastered: a waste of time There is a solution... http://hometheater.about.com/od/lase...sertodvd_2.htm With some DVD recorders going for less than $100 and a used but workable Laserdisc player..you CAN convert those to the DVD format... __________________ "Young lady, human/insect mutation is far from an exact science..."

January 12 2010, 06:08 PM	#180
I-Am-Zim Captain Location: North Carolina, USA	Re: TOS-Remastered: a waste of time I'm probably one of the few who wish they had gone even further with the remastering. I have all three seasons of TOS on DVD, both the original and remastered. I can watch either whenever I choose. I prefer the remastered version to the original simply because the picture quality is lightyears better. I watch them on a 42 inch, Magnavox HD plasma TV with a 500-watt 5.1 channel surround unit. I usually watch the episodes in "cinema" mode so that they fill the screen without being horizontally stretched. It is a truely awesome experience. In some cases, I do wish they had gone farther with the updating of the effects. I would have liked to have seen better transporter effects. In some TOS-R episodes, you can still see the matte lines around the characters during transport. I also wish that some of the screen displays would have been updated. One that comes to mind is the scene in WNMHGB when Spock is reading about Mitchell and Dehner. It would have looked much better if that had been updated to a more modern looking computer screen display instead of old typing paper projections. But that's just my opinion. They could have done so much more. But I think they held back so that the transitions between new/old effects wouldn't be so obvious. But I still love the original too. I can and do live with both.

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