Frank Darabont's The Mist *SPOILERS*

Joel_Kirk · January 5 2010, 05:33 AM

Yes, Stephen King wrote the novella the film was based on, but Frank Darabont wrote and directed the film...

And yes, SPOILERS for those who don't want to be...well, SPOILED, even though the movie came out about 3 years ago...

People still don't know that:

**MAJOR SPOILERS**
Luke is Darth Vader's son....

**END OF MAJOR, MAJOR SPOILERS**

Anywho, I saw this film the other day....along with Birth. Both movies I thought were going to give me something snazzy but the ending of both movies seemed to be 'Ah ha! Made you stay and waste 2 hours!'

With The Mist: You invested so much in these characters, and those who leave at the end...you think a little twist, a little bit of interesting storytelling is going to occur...

...But no...

After all the gore, the preaching, characters who made it through the disasters by being level-headed and strong-willed suddenly give up, and the middle finger is given.

I'm describing the main character portrayed by Thomas Jane, and the few individuals who follow his lead throughout the film.

It's like....

It's like being given a valentine by a television producer; you think something special is going to be done towards the end of a television show with characters you invest in, but all you get is something indescribable...something bad...where the characters are suddenly 'out of character'...and the story changes for the worst.

It's even more of a back-handed slap when I see that it has a 7.4 rating on IMDB....

I would like to get some thoughts on what some of the posters thought of.....The Mist...

JacksonArcher · January 5 2010, 05:34 AM

That ending...

Trek4Ever · January 5 2010, 05:39 AM

I thought Darabont went too far with the ending. I think he wanted to try to top King in terms of nihilistic endings (something King is known for) and that's why we got that ending. It's very gut wrenching and to me lessens my enjoyment of the film being that it comes out of nowhere and disrupts the essence of the film. When I do watch it on cable I tend to turn the film off a few minutes before it ends to keep it more like King's original ending in my mind.

Joel_Kirk · January 5 2010, 05:52 AM

^^

I haven't read the novella because--at least in my mind--the film eclipses the printed original unless someone remade it....or unless the film as a whole was bad...

Brikar99 · January 5 2010, 06:17 AM

I'm still very conflicted about this movie, and the ending in particular. People ask me if I like it, and I honestly have no idea what to say.

Dorian Thompson · January 5 2010, 06:21 AM

I loved the ending. I don't understand what the problem is with it. They thought rescue was out of reach. They could die of thirst, be eaten, or go quickly.

Brikar99 · January 5 2010, 06:30 AM

Dorian Thompson wrote:

I loved the ending. I don't understand what the problem is with it. They thought rescue was out of reach. They could die of thirst, be eaten, or go quickly.

And that's sometimes how I think about it... and sometimes my desire for a happy ending overrides that. It's very strange.

Dorian Thompson · January 5 2010, 06:32 AM

It depends on my mood. With the movie presented as it was, IMO, a happy ending would have been too much of a contrivance. Mileage and opinions vary, of course. The fatalistic ending seemed to fit.

Temis the Vorta · January 5 2010, 07:40 AM

I thought it was an effective thriller with imaginative visuals, and a very gutsy ending that shook me up, but hey, if a horror movie doesn't shake you up, isn't that like a chick flick that doesn't make you cry?

sidious618 · January 5 2010, 07:50 AM

I've been meaning to see this film because I really enjoyed the novella.

Gaith · January 5 2010, 07:53 AM

There are half a dozen or so The Mist threads easily found in the archives, including at least three dealing primarily with the ending. Sure, they've been dormant for a while, but it wouldn't have been to difficult to dig up one of them, nor would it have taken much time to read a few of the opinions already offered there...

My own take: it's the perfect ending. If you want the novella ending, it's already shot and released... in The Birds. To have kept that ending and aped Hitch's film would've been tolerable, but pretty lame.

Instead, we get a happy ending (humanity seems to win), but not such a happy ending that we can say "it's all right, he's got a new wife, etc." By denying us that catharsis, and the soothing ending of "the little boy will be all right, and, like Harry Potter in the sh***iest epilogue EVER, will one day be totally fine", we're left with the same shock the survivors have.

As for the novella's ambiguous ending... I feel that it's much more suited to the Cold War era of The Birds/the King novella. Maybe if the movie had been set then, I wouldn't have minded seeing it on screen. But to tack it on now, when it's pretty clear that much of humanity will endure for some time, would have simply struck me as cheap.

Zachary Smith · January 5 2010, 08:35 AM

I HATED the ending. It was a freaking IDIOT plot ending. How MANY abandoned cars with tanks FULL of gas did they drive past? How many abandoned GAS stations? These people were NOT stupid and they did NOT wish to die. Yes, I can accept that in a moment of crisis after so much trial that they might have lost hope. But it is unacceptable to me that these characters simply IGNORED the gas needle creeping toward "empty" as they drove mile after mile after MILE along major highway and doubtless through towns and cities (conveniently NOT shown) to run their tanks dry in a godforsaken remote location with no hope of finding fuel. It was stupid and purposefully not shown because in the minds of most audience's what you don't see on screen doesn't matter and makes no difference. It bugs me that there was NO WAY these characters could get where they went without passing probably THOUSANDS of opportunities for fuel, yet they didn't bother.

Then, the gimmick ending which was telegraphed a hundred miles away annoyed me to no end. I much preferred King's original ambiguous yet HOPEFUL ending.

Shurik · January 5 2010, 09:47 AM

Zachary Smith wrote:

I HATED the ending. It was a freaking IDIOT plot ending. How MANY abandoned cars with tanks FULL of gas did they drive past? How many abandoned GAS stations? These people were NOT stupid and they did NOT wish to die. Yes, I can accept that in a moment of crisis after so much trial that they might have lost hope. But it is unacceptable to me that these characters simply IGNORED the gas needle creeping toward "empty" as they drove mile after mile after MILE along major highway and doubtless through towns and cities (conveniently NOT shown) to run their tanks dry in a godforsaken remote location with no hope of finding fuel. It was stupid and purposefully not shown because in the minds of most audience's what you don't see on screen doesn't matter and makes no difference. It bugs me that there was NO WAY these characters could get where they went without passing probably THOUSANDS of opportunities for fuel, yet they didn't bother.

Then, the gimmick ending which was telegraphed a hundred miles away annoyed me to no end. I much preferred King's original ambiguous yet HOPEFUL ending.

They were afraid to leave the car, even for a few minutes, after what they saw in previous few days. I think they lost the last bits of hope when they saw that giant animal crossing their path.

I loved this film and the ending.

Zachary Smith · January 5 2010, 09:58 AM

Shurik wrote:

Zachary Smith wrote:

I HATED the ending. It was a freaking IDIOT plot ending. How MANY abandoned cars with tanks FULL of gas did they drive past? How many abandoned GAS stations? These people were NOT stupid and they did NOT wish to die. Yes, I can accept that in a moment of crisis after so much trial that they might have lost hope. But it is unacceptable to me that these characters simply IGNORED the gas needle creeping toward "empty" as they drove mile after mile after MILE along major highway and doubtless through towns and cities (conveniently NOT shown) to run their tanks dry in a godforsaken remote location with no hope of finding fuel. It was stupid and purposefully not shown because in the minds of most audience's what you don't see on screen doesn't matter and makes no difference. It bugs me that there was NO WAY these characters could get where they went without passing probably THOUSANDS of opportunities for fuel, yet they didn't bother.

Then, the gimmick ending which was telegraphed a hundred miles away annoyed me to no end. I much preferred King's original ambiguous yet HOPEFUL ending.

They were afraid to leave the car, even for a few minutes, after what they saw in previous few days. I think they lost the last bits of hope when they saw that giant animal crossing their path.

I loved this film and the ending.

I understand they were afraid to leave the car, but they were not children. The HAD to leave the car, the same way they HAD to leave the grocery. To stay in the car without refueling was CERTAIN death. To at least ATTEMPT refueling was to attempt to stay alive.

I enjoyed the movie until the last few minutes. Enjoyed it immensely, in fact. And had the characters died in an attempt at refueling or in some effort to save themselves, I could have at least respected that. As it was, their choice to run the car out of gas and then just . . . kill themselves . . . did not FIT the personalities of these characters and was fully inconsistent with their behavior and attitudes up to that point. They CHOSE to make a desperate situation hopeless by their actions.

I'm glad you enjoyed it and I don't begrudge you that. Taste in these matters is certainly subjective. I, on the other hand, did NOT enjoy the last few minutes of an otherwise fine movie. It's a REAL shame that there was not an alternate ending filmed consistent with King's original conclusion. In fact, that would have made a very nice promotion for the film. Audiences in one theater see the down-beat ending. Audiences in another theater see the more hopeful ending. Would have been a pretty cool way to get repeat business.

Gaith · January 5 2010, 10:06 AM

^^ There are problems with refueling. How much gas can you pump without electricity. How do you collect food, when any room or building could be thoroughly infested. How do you take a crap...

Agreed about the giant dinosaur bug. Given the characters' already precarious emotional states, I have no problem believing that that thing changed everything. People do funny stuff under extreme duress.

And please note that the film ending is more hopeful for the rest of us humans who appear to survive, unlike the total question mark of the novella.

January 5 2010, 05:33 AM	#1
Joel_Kirk Commodore Location: San Francisco...	Frank Darabont's The Mist SPOILERS Yes, Stephen King wrote the novella the film was based on, but Frank Darabont wrote and directed the film... And yes, SPOILERS for those who don't want to be...well, SPOILED, even though the movie came out about 3 years ago... People still don't know that: MAJOR SPOILERS Luke is Darth Vader's son.... END OF MAJOR, MAJOR SPOILERS Anywho, I saw this film the other day....along with Birth. Both movies I thought were going to give me something snazzy but the ending of both movies seemed to be 'Ah ha! Made you stay and waste 2 hours!' With The Mist: You invested so much in these characters, and those who leave at the end...you think a little twist, a little bit of interesting storytelling is going to occur... ...But no... After all the gore, the preaching, characters who made it through the disasters by being level-headed and strong-willed suddenly give up, and the middle finger is given. I'm describing the main character portrayed by Thomas Jane, and the few individuals who follow his lead throughout the film. It's like.... It's like being given a valentine by a television producer; you think something special is going to be done towards the end of a television show with characters you invest in, but all you get is something indescribable...something bad...where the characters are suddenly 'out of character'...and the story changes for the worst. It's even more of a back-handed slap when I see that it has a 7.4 rating on IMDB.... I would like to get some thoughts on what some of the posters thought of.....The Mist... __________________ 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Joel_Kirk 2.Experiences As a Black Male on Trektoday Last edited by Joel_Kirk; January 5 2010 at 05:50 AM.

January 5 2010, 05:34 AM	#2
JacksonArcher Vice Admiral	Re: Frank Darabont's The Mist SPOILERS That ending...

January 5 2010, 05:39 AM	#3
Trek4Ever Fleet Captain Location: Florida and Beyond	Re: Frank Darabont's The Mist SPOILERS I thought Darabont went too far with the ending. I think he wanted to try to top King in terms of nihilistic endings (something King is known for) and that's why we got that ending. It's very gut wrenching and to me lessens my enjoyment of the film being that it comes out of nowhere and disrupts the essence of the film. When I do watch it on cable I tend to turn the film off a few minutes before it ends to keep it more like King's original ending in my mind.

January 5 2010, 05:52 AM	#4
Joel_Kirk Commodore Location: San Francisco...	Re: Frank Darabont's The Mist SPOILERS ^^ I haven't read the novella because--at least in my mind--the film eclipses the printed original unless someone remade it....or unless the film as a whole was bad... __________________ 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Joel_Kirk 2.Experiences As a Black Male on Trektoday

January 5 2010, 06:17 AM	#5
Brikar99 Rear Admiral	Re: Frank Darabont's The Mist SPOILERS I'm still very conflicted about this movie, and the ending in particular. People ask me if I like it, and I honestly have no idea what to say. __________________ SNW 9: 'Mestral' - 'Ninja Werewolf Assassins!' - Movie/TV reviews: For Reelz

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January 5 2010, 06:21 AM	#6
Dorian Thompson Admiral Location: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma	Re: Frank Darabont's The Mist SPOILERS I loved the ending. I don't understand what the problem is with it. They thought rescue was out of reach. They could die of thirst, be eaten, or go quickly. __________________ http://www.noahswish.com Best disaster animal relief charity around. Don't forget our animal friends. Donate, train to be a volunteer, or be a foster parent for a displaced pet.

January 5 2010, 06:32 AM	#8
Dorian Thompson Admiral Location: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma	Re: Frank Darabont's The Mist SPOILERS It depends on my mood. With the movie presented as it was, IMO, a happy ending would have been too much of a contrivance. Mileage and opinions vary, of course. The fatalistic ending seemed to fit. __________________ http://www.noahswish.com Best disaster animal relief charity around. Don't forget our animal friends. Donate, train to be a volunteer, or be a foster parent for a displaced pet.

January 5 2010, 07:40 AM	#9
Temis the Vorta Fleet Admiral Location: Tatoinne	Re: Frank Darabont's The Mist SPOILERS I thought it was an effective thriller with imaginative visuals, and a very gutsy ending that shook me up, but hey, if a horror movie doesn't shake you up, isn't that like a chick flick that doesn't make you cry?

January 5 2010, 07:50 AM	#10
sidious618 Admiral Location: New York, US	Re: Frank Darabont's The Mist SPOILERS I've been meaning to see this film because I really enjoyed the novella. __________________ We've met before, haven't we?

January 5 2010, 07:53 AM	#11
Gaith Rear Admiral Location: Starfleet Command, The City that Knows How	Re: Frank Darabont's The Mist SPOILERS There are half a dozen or so The Mist threads easily found in the archives, including at least three dealing primarily with the ending. Sure, they've been dormant for a while, but it wouldn't have been to difficult to dig up one of them, nor would it have taken much time to read a few of the opinions already offered there... My own take: it's the perfect ending. If you want the novella ending, it's already shot and released... in The Birds. To have kept that ending and aped Hitch's film would've been tolerable, but pretty lame. Instead, we get a happy ending (humanity seems to win), but not such a happy ending that we can say "it's all right, he's got a new wife, etc." By denying us that catharsis, and the soothing ending of "the little boy will be all right, and, like Harry Potter in the sh**iest epilogue EVER, will one day be totally fine", we're left with the same shock the survivors have. As for the novella's ambiguous ending... I feel that it's much more suited to the Cold War era of The Birds*/the King novella. Maybe if the movie had been set then, I wouldn't have minded seeing it on screen. But to tack it on now, when it's pretty clear that much of humanity will endure for some time, would have simply struck me as cheap.

January 5 2010, 08:35 AM	#12
Zachary Smith Vice Admiral Location: Lost somewhere in space	Re: Frank Darabont's The Mist SPOILERS I HATED the ending. It was a freaking IDIOT plot ending. How MANY abandoned cars with tanks FULL of gas did they drive past? How many abandoned GAS stations? These people were NOT stupid and they did NOT wish to die. Yes, I can accept that in a moment of crisis after so much trial that they might have lost hope. But it is unacceptable to me that these characters simply IGNORED the gas needle creeping toward "empty" as they drove mile after mile after MILE along major highway and doubtless through towns and cities (conveniently NOT shown) to run their tanks dry in a godforsaken remote location with no hope of finding fuel. It was stupid and purposefully not shown because in the minds of most audience's what you don't see on screen doesn't matter and makes no difference. It bugs me that there was NO WAY these characters could get where they went without passing probably THOUSANDS of opportunities for fuel, yet they didn't bother. Then, the gimmick ending which was telegraphed a hundred miles away annoyed me to no end. I much preferred King's original ambiguous yet HOPEFUL ending. __________________ OHHhhhhh . . . the pain . . . the pain . . . My favorite TV show is "Cool Hand Luke Skywalker--Texas Ranger". The best episode is the one where he fights Samantha's wacky Sith Lord Uncle, Darth Arthur . . ."

January 5 2010, 10:06 AM	#15
Gaith Rear Admiral Location: Starfleet Command, The City that Knows How	Re: Frank Darabont's The Mist SPOILERS ^^ There are problems with refueling. How much gas can you pump without electricity. How do you collect food, when any room or building could be thoroughly infested. How do you take a crap... Agreed about the giant dinosaur bug. Given the characters' already precarious emotional states, I have no problem believing that that thing changed everything. People do funny stuff under extreme duress. And please note that the film ending is more hopeful for the rest of us humans who appear to survive, unlike the total question mark of the novella.