RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 138,198
Posts: 5,345,908
Members: 24,604
Currently online: 574
Newest member: LanCo96

TrekToday headlines

Funko Mini Spock
By: T'Bonz on Jul 23

IDW Publishing Comic Preview
By: T'Bonz on Jul 23

A Baby For Saldana
By: T'Bonz on Jul 23

Klingon Beer Arrives In The US
By: T'Bonz on Jul 22

Star Trek: Prelude To Axanar
By: T'Bonz on Jul 22

Abrams Announces Star Wars: Force For Change Sweepstakes
By: T'Bonz on Jul 22

New Funko Trek Figure
By: T'Bonz on Jul 21

Saldana As A Role Model
By: T'Bonz on Jul 21

San Diego Comic-Con Trek Fan Guide
By: T'Bonz on Jul 21

Cumberbatch As Turing
By: T'Bonz on Jul 21


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Star Trek Movies > Star Trek Movies I-X

Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old December 30 2009, 09:49 PM   #91
RobertScorpio
Pariah
 
Location: San Diego
Re: "Planet of the Titans" Revisited

Penhall99 wrote: View Post
Ryann866 wrote: View Post
I've always been interested in these "lost Trek" stories -- especially the development of the scripts that eventually became TMP.

A friend's father is Jerry Isenberg, who was assigned as the producer of Planet of The Titans and worked with GR and the writers during that period. I'm going to ask him if he still has a dusty script lying around somewhere... no promises though...
Hey, so I guess nothing ever panned out?

And you know, as much as I liiked TMP, I think this would have made a cool movie. I don't like the idea of Kirk disappearing for half the movie or the Enterprise redesign (although it is interesting and kinda cool) but at least it isn't a retread of a TV episode. And it seems like it would have had a cinematic scope and feel to it, without resorting to the usual "Earth is gonna be destroyed" thing.

I hope a screenplay surfaces someday, because I'd love to give it a read.
But wouldn't it have been a retread? Didn't Kirk meet Apollo/Adonis and didn't Adonis explain who and what the Roman/Greek Gods were?

Rob
RobertScorpio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 31 2009, 01:07 AM   #92
trevanian
Rear Admiral
 
trevanian's Avatar
 
Re: "Planet of the Titans" Revisited

RobertScorpio wrote: View Post
Penhall99 wrote: View Post
Ryann866 wrote: View Post
I've always been interested in these "lost Trek" stories -- especially the development of the scripts that eventually became TMP.

A friend's father is Jerry Isenberg, who was assigned as the producer of Planet of The Titans and worked with GR and the writers during that period. I'm going to ask him if he still has a dusty script lying around somewhere... no promises though...
Hey, so I guess nothing ever panned out?

And you know, as much as I liiked TMP, I think this would have made a cool movie. I don't like the idea of Kirk disappearing for half the movie or the Enterprise redesign (although it is interesting and kinda cool) but at least it isn't a retread of a TV episode. And it seems like it would have had a cinematic scope and feel to it, without resorting to the usual "Earth is gonna be destroyed" thing.

I hope a screenplay surfaces someday, because I'd love to give it a read.
But wouldn't it have been a retread? Didn't Kirk meet Apollo/Adonis and didn't Adonis explain who and what the Roman/Greek Gods were?

Rob
Are you may---beee confusing this with CLASH OF THE TITANS?
trevanian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 1 2010, 01:38 AM   #93
Maurice
Vice Admiral
 
Maurice's Avatar
 
Location: Maurice in San Francisco
Re: "Planet of the Titans" Revisited

Axiom1 wrote: View Post
...In reference to Shigeta as Nogura, and Sulu, the fan film trailer 'STA: A Time to Heal' is finally online.

Register, log in, and follow the links section here: <snip>
Tell me you didn't re-animate this long dead thread just to again plug the trailer for this thing. Interesting as it might be, it's got nothing to do with "Planet of the Titans".

trevanian wrote: View Post
RobertScorpio wrote: View Post
But wouldn't it have been a retread? Didn't Kirk meet Apollo/Adonis and didn't Adonis explain who and what the Roman/Greek Gods were?
Are you may---beee confusing this with CLASH OF THE TITANS?
I think Robert means that as "Planet of the Titans" would have ended with the idea that Kirk and Company were the titans of old, and as the Titans were the fathers of the Greek Gods, wouldn't that make for a discontinuity with how said Greek gods were depicted in "Who Mourns for Adonais?"

If I am reading that correctly.
__________________
* * *
"If you wanted to get a good meeting... just go in and
say 'darker, grittier, sexier' and whatever."
—Glen Larson, 2010
Maurice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 1 2010, 01:55 AM   #94
RobertScorpio
Pariah
 
Location: San Diego
Re: "Planet of the Titans" Revisited

DS9Sega wrote: View Post
Axiom1 wrote: View Post
...In reference to Shigeta as Nogura, and Sulu, the fan film trailer 'STA: A Time to Heal' is finally online.

Register, log in, and follow the links section here: <snip>
Tell me you didn't re-animate this long dead thread just to again plug the trailer for this thing. Interesting as it might be, it's got nothing to do with "Planet of the Titans".

trevanian wrote: View Post
RobertScorpio wrote: View Post
But wouldn't it have been a retread? Didn't Kirk meet Apollo/Adonis and didn't Adonis explain who and what the Roman/Greek Gods were?
Are you may---beee confusing this with CLASH OF THE TITANS?
I think Robert means that as "Planet of the Titans" would have ended with the idea that Kirk and Company were the titans of old, and as the Titans were the fathers of the Greek Gods, wouldn't that make for a discontinuity with how said Greek gods were depicted in "Who Mourns for Adonais?"

If I am reading that correctly.
Yes...exactly..wouldn't that trump Adonis?

Rob
RobertScorpio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 1 2010, 02:18 AM   #95
trevanian
Rear Admiral
 
trevanian's Avatar
 
Re: "Planet of the Titans" Revisited

RobertScorpio wrote: View Post
DS9Sega wrote: View Post
Axiom1 wrote: View Post
...In reference to Shigeta as Nogura, and Sulu, the fan film trailer 'STA: A Time to Heal' is finally online.

Register, log in, and follow the links section here: <snip>
Tell me you didn't re-animate this long dead thread just to again plug the trailer for this thing. Interesting as it might be, it's got nothing to do with "Planet of the Titans".

trevanian wrote: View Post
Are you may---beee confusing this with CLASH OF THE TITANS?
I think Robert means that as "Planet of the Titans" would have ended with the idea that Kirk and Company were the titans of old, and as the Titans were the fathers of the Greek Gods, wouldn't that make for a discontinuity with how said Greek gods were depicted in "Who Mourns for Adonais?"

If I am reading that correctly.
Yes...exactly..wouldn't that trump Adonis?

Rob
I never got that impression, though I certainly can't dispute it.
I thought the titans reference was a generic one, relating to some race that had been detected as an early force on Earth only in Kirk's time. But given what you folks say, it sounds more plausible with the titan/apollo business. And it is in keeping with Kaufmann's stated interest in mythology. He wanted to work in a lot of Stapledon SF as well. Kind of makes me wonder if Stapledon used titans.
trevanian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 1 2010, 06:48 AM   #96
Captain Robert April
Vice Admiral
 
Location: In selfless service to fandom, on the road to becoming a Star Trek trivia god...
Re: "Planet of the Titans" Revisited

I think the big problem with this story would be, what do you do for a sequel?
Captain Robert April is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 1 2010, 07:23 AM   #97
trevanian
Rear Admiral
 
trevanian's Avatar
 
Re: "Planet of the Titans" Revisited

Do another stand-alone movie in the same universe. I think they could have used TITANS as the reboot film, and if they wanted to hold Kirk & co back for more pics, they could have done this with April's crew. Intro the ST universe anew, instead of tearing the ST universe down to create this diluted and dumbassed, piss-ant mix of STARSHIP TROOPERS and LucasLand.
trevanian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 1 2010, 10:14 AM   #98
RobertScorpio
Pariah
 
Location: San Diego
Re: "Planet of the Titans" Revisited

trevanian wrote: View Post
Do another stand-alone movie in the same universe. I think they could have used TITANS as the reboot film, and if they wanted to hold Kirk & co back for more pics, they could have done this with April's crew. Intro the ST universe anew, instead of tearing the ST universe down to create this diluted and dumbassed, piss-ant mix of STARSHIP TROOPERS and LucasLand.
...which made lots of money and attracted a younger crowd like my daughter. JJ did exactly what was needed to insure TREK's survival..and, IMO, he succeeded and i cant' wait for more...

HAVING said that, I can understand those who don't like this version of TREK jj is telling...so we just have to agree to disagree

Rob
RobertScorpio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 1 2010, 02:36 PM   #99
Axiom1
Ensign
 
Location: Out there...thataway
Re: "Planet of the Titans" Revisited

Tell me you didn't re-animate this long dead thread just to again plug the trailer for this thing. Interesting as it might be, it's got nothing to do with "Planet of the Titans".
Your slightly acrimonious comment is interesting, and a little perplexing, considering I've been interested in POTT long before 'your thread' existed. Not to mention ATTH was referenced by others in 'your thread' several times prior to my post. A post which if you read, mentioned a little more than a 'plug' for said ATTH trailer.

Possibly the fact ATTH was referenced here to begin with might have something to do with its relevance to POTT?

Threads topics do tend to slightly swerve somewhat on forums, so don't let that get you too perturbed my friend.

I imagine Data Holmes might agree with that deduction.


Data Holmes wrote: View Post
I am so loving this thread. I love all the "treks not taken" stuff. Great job DS9Sega!




Christopher wrote: View Post
Procutus wrote: View Post
James Shigeta was going to play Nogura if the Phase II series had progressed.
Where did you hear this? I know Shigeta played Nogura in a fan film called Yorktown II back in the late '80s or so; Starlog covered it, since it was apparently a pretty prominent fan film with involvement from many professionals including George Takei (with the filmmaker playing Sulu's son), Andrew Probert (who designed a Klingon scout ship for it), and composer Bill Conti. But I don't remember anything about Shigeta being slated for Phase II.
I so wish this would make it's way onto the internet already!!!
I suppose we should thank the power of the galactic internet. Who woulda thunk?

HAVING said that, I can understand those who don't like this version of TREK jj
There are actually a few discontented fans out there. Yet not enough to make any great changes. However, if there can be two Hulk films that aren't sequels...why not another version of Trek? I'd certainly be game

Realistically it won't happen, though one never knows…

I'm still waiting for EON to switch Bonds, bring back Ken Adam, John Barry, and get the rest of the production mix right...but thats another story for another forum.

Last edited by Axiom1; January 1 2010 at 02:52 PM.
Axiom1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 1 2010, 03:35 PM   #100
trevanian
Rear Admiral
 
trevanian's Avatar
 
Re: "Planet of the Titans" Revisited

RobertScorpio wrote: View Post
trevanian wrote: View Post
Do another stand-alone movie in the same universe. I think they could have used TITANS as the reboot film, and if they wanted to hold Kirk & co back for more pics, they could have done this with April's crew. Intro the ST universe anew, instead of tearing the ST universe down to create this diluted and dumbassed, piss-ant mix of STARSHIP TROOPERS and LucasLand.
...which made lots of money and attracted a younger crowd like my daughter. JJ did exactly what was needed to insure TREK's survival..and, IMO, he succeeded and i cant' wait for more...

HAVING said that, I can understand those who don't like this version of TREK jj is telling...so we just have to agree to disagree

Rob
If that is the price of survival ... well, the best way I can explain my point of view is that I'd've rather had no Bond movies between THUNDERBALL and THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS than suffer through all those Moore pics.
trevanian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 1 2010, 03:53 PM   #101
Broccoli
Vice Admiral
 
Broccoli's Avatar
 
Location: Broccoli
Re: "Planet of the Titans" Revisited

trevanian wrote: View Post
RobertScorpio wrote: View Post
trevanian wrote: View Post
Do another stand-alone movie in the same universe. I think they could have used TITANS as the reboot film, and if they wanted to hold Kirk & co back for more pics, they could have done this with April's crew. Intro the ST universe anew, instead of tearing the ST universe down to create this diluted and dumbassed, piss-ant mix of STARSHIP TROOPERS and LucasLand.
...which made lots of money and attracted a younger crowd like my daughter. JJ did exactly what was needed to insure TREK's survival..and, IMO, he succeeded and i cant' wait for more...

HAVING said that, I can understand those who don't like this version of TREK jj is telling...so we just have to agree to disagree

Rob
If that is the price of survival ... well, the best way I can explain my point of view is that I'd've rather had no Bond movies between THUNDERBALL and THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS than suffer through all those Moore pics.
Then you'd miss out on the excellent On Her Majesty's Secret Service.
__________________
"That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." -- Christopher Hitchens
Broccoli is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 1 2010, 05:11 PM   #102
Axiom1
Ensign
 
Location: Out there...thataway
Re: "Planet of the Titans" Revisited

Then you'd miss out on the excellent On Her Majesty's Secret Service.
True. Easily one of the best with one of Barry's better scores to boot.
Axiom1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 1 2010, 09:33 PM   #103
Captain Robert April
Vice Admiral
 
Location: In selfless service to fandom, on the road to becoming a Star Trek trivia god...
Re: "Planet of the Titans" Revisited

I can certainly live without "Moonraker" and "View To a Kill", but I'm quite fond of "The Spy Who Loved Me", "For Your Eyes Only" and "Octopussy".
Captain Robert April is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 2 2010, 03:15 PM   #104
trevanian
Rear Admiral
 
trevanian's Avatar
 
Re: "Planet of the Titans" Revisited

Broccoli wrote: View Post
trevanian wrote: View Post
RobertScorpio wrote: View Post

...which made lots of money and attracted a younger crowd like my daughter. JJ did exactly what was needed to insure TREK's survival..and, IMO, he succeeded and i cant' wait for more...

HAVING said that, I can understand those who don't like this version of TREK jj is telling...so we just have to agree to disagree

Rob
If that is the price of survival ... well, the best way I can explain my point of view is that I'd've rather had no Bond movies between THUNDERBALL and THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS than suffer through all those Moore pics.
Then you'd miss out on the excellent On Her Majesty's Secret Service.
They could have shot it as Dalton's second or third outing, and probably still had a Barry score, since he wouldn't have had to put up with Lewis Gilbert misusing Dolby on MR and other annoyances that chased JB away from JB after TLD.
trevanian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 2 2010, 04:49 PM   #105
Procutus
Admiral
 
Procutus's Avatar
 
Location: Caught in a Prism...
Re: "Planet of the Titans" Revisited

RobertScorpio wrote: View Post
trevanian wrote: View Post
Do another stand-alone movie in the same universe. I think they could have used TITANS as the reboot film, and if they wanted to hold Kirk & co back for more pics, they could have done this with April's crew. Intro the ST universe anew, instead of tearing the ST universe down to create this diluted and dumbassed, piss-ant mix of STARSHIP TROOPERS and LucasLand.
...which made lots of money and attracted a younger crowd like my daughter. JJ did exactly what was needed to insure TREK's survival..and, IMO, he succeeded and i cant' wait for more...

HAVING said that, I can understand those who don't like this version of TREK jj is telling...so we just have to agree to disagree

Rob



While I can understand the need to re-invigorate the franchise, and there were a few elements in J.J.'s version that I liked, overall this is not the way I would've chosen to re-invigorate things. To that extent, I'm with Trevanian on this one. I still can't believe that there wasn't a 'snappy' way to bring Trek into the 21st century movie theater that would've kept with the existing universe.

Abram's film was a good movie; I'm just not convinced that it was really good Star Trek.
__________________
Proud user of Windows XP since 2006.
Procutus is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 12:47 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.