TOS-Remastered: a waste of time - Page 4

Captain Randy Hall · December 17 2009, 02:59 AM

To be honest, I think debating about whether the remastered eps are a waste of time is a waste of time. Those of us who are interested will go buy the set anyway and those who aren't won't. Still, I guess it fills the time until the next movie....

Prologic9 · December 17 2009, 03:04 AM

Captain Robert April wrote:

^ The advantage of that rock bridge shot was the ability to include the city of Shi-Kahr in the distance (one more poke in the eye of the "TAS isn't canon" crowd).

Well... the remastered shots aren't Canon either, so...

Chrisisall · December 17 2009, 04:45 AM

Prologic9 wrote:

[Well... the remastered shots aren't Canon either, so...

FIRE the cannon then!

KirkSpockTOSFan · December 17 2009, 06:24 AM

I dont' have the remasterd on dvd but I do have the blu ray. I now have all of the seasons of TOS on blu ray, just bought season 3 yesterday. On the blu ray you can choose between the orginal or the remasterd. I always watch it on the remasterd because it looks great! I got the blu ray's because I wanted them, plus I love the show. So what if it looks great or not, I just like the show.

Captain Randy Hall · December 17 2009, 07:11 AM

KirkSpockTOSFan wrote:

I dont' have the remasterd on dvd but I do have the blu ray. I now have all of the seasons of TOS on blu ray, just bought season 3 yesterday. On the blu ray you can choose between the orginal or the remasterd. I always watch it on the remasterd because it looks great! I got the blu ray's because I wanted them, plus I love the show. So what if it looks great or not, I just like the show.

You'll get no argument from me.

bbailey861 · December 17 2009, 12:37 PM

^^Me too.

RandyS · December 18 2009, 12:17 AM

TeutonicNights wrote:

It's a good reason to use only connies though.

The writers probably had a fleet of Starfleet's best in mind, like the E was.
Just like the destruction of the Yamato on TNG or the Odyssey on DS9 wouldn't have had as much shock factor if it had been some random Excelsiors. Did they comment on which ship was supposed to be the Miranda?

I'm pretty sure a Miranda have looked gorgeous though

I think so too, and would have liked to see that. One of my most favorite changes was in one of my least favorite episodes, "Charlie X". I liked how they showed a "live action" version of the ship seen in the TAS episode where Spock was dying. I'm not sure, but I think it was "The Pirates of Orion".

Mr. Laser Beam · December 18 2009, 05:03 AM

One of the new ships for ST XI was a TOS-ified Miranda. The 'new' Defiant has the same number as the TOS version - NCC-1764 - but is now a Miranda. Linky

The Castellan · December 18 2009, 07:48 AM

Mr. Laser Beam wrote:

One of the new ships for ST XI was a TOS-ified Miranda. The 'new' Defiant has the same number as the TOS version - NCC-1764 - but is now a Miranda. Linky

Wonder how much the size got bloated to from TOS, now.

King Daniel · December 18 2009, 01:46 PM

RandyS wrote:

TeutonicNights wrote:

It's a good reason to use only connies though.

The writers probably had a fleet of Starfleet's best in mind, like the E was.
Just like the destruction of the Yamato on TNG or the Odyssey on DS9 wouldn't have had as much shock factor if it had been some random Excelsiors. Did they comment on which ship was supposed to be the Miranda?

I'm pretty sure a Miranda have looked gorgeous though

I think so too, and would have liked to see that. One of my most favorite changes was in one of my least favorite episodes, "Charlie X". I liked how they showed a "live action" version of the ship seen in the TAS episode where Spock was dying. I'm not sure, but I think it was "The Pirates of Orion".

Nah, it was "More Tribbles, More Troubles". The ship from "Pirates of Orion" was the SS Huron, a different design. Both ship types are also in the ("un-canon!"

) Star Trek: Of Gods and Men.

A TOS Miranda is in the (unfortunately utterly terrible) fan film "Blood and Fire". The story and acting are, sadly, horrific but the CG is great:

(pic borrowed from Trekmovie.com)

Captain Robert April · December 19 2009, 07:12 AM

Okay, who wants to be the first to defend "Blood and Fire"?

ST-One · December 19 2009, 12:47 PM

Haven't seen part II yet - but I'll do it.

Daddy Todd · December 20 2009, 02:00 AM

Captain Robert April wrote:

Okay, who wants to be the first to defend "Blood and Fire"?

Not me -- I thought it was about twice as long as it needed to be to effectively tell its story.

I'm not saying I could do better -- far from it! But I wish it had been more tightly edited.

Captain Randy Hall · December 20 2009, 02:59 AM

Captain Robert April wrote:

Okay, who wants to be the first to defend "Blood and Fire"?

Not first, but I really enjoyed it, which I do with all the Phase II "independent productions."

Anji · December 20 2009, 03:04 AM

This is gonna sound weird but I don't really see the difference between the two. I mean, maybe because I've been watching these things for almost 40 years now, but my mind always substitutes the reimaged stuff for the old stuff.

December 17 2009, 02:59 AM	#46
Captain Randy Hall Commodore Location: Columbia, Maryland USA	Re: TOS-Remastered: a waste of time To be honest, I think debating about whether the remastered eps are a waste of time is a waste of time. Those of us who are interested will go buy the set anyway and those who aren't won't. Still, I guess it fills the time until the next movie.... __________________ Randy Hall Captain of the U.S.S. Chesapeake Star Trek Club http://www.usschesapeake.org

December 17 2009, 06:24 AM	#49
KirkSpockTOSFan Captain Location: I will not allow you to lecture me about the merits of emotion	Re: TOS-Remastered: a waste of time I dont' have the remasterd on dvd but I do have the blu ray. I now have all of the seasons of TOS on blu ray, just bought season 3 yesterday. On the blu ray you can choose between the orginal or the remasterd. I always watch it on the remasterd because it looks great! I got the blu ray's because I wanted them, plus I love the show. So what if it looks great or not, I just like the show. __________________ "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one. I have and always shall be your friend. Live long and prosper"

December 17 2009, 12:37 PM	#51
bbailey861 Vice Admiral Location: Kingston, ON	Re: TOS-Remastered: a waste of time ^^Me too.

December 18 2009, 05:03 AM	#53
Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Location: The visitor's bullpen	Re: TOS-Remastered: a waste of time One of the new ships for ST XI was a TOS-ified Miranda. The 'new' Defiant has the same number as the TOS version - NCC-1764 - but is now a Miranda. Linky __________________ It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

December 19 2009, 07:12 AM	#56
Captain Robert April Vice Admiral Location: In selfless service to fandom, on the road to becoming a Star Trek trivia god...	Re: TOS-Remastered: a waste of time Okay, who wants to be the first to defend "Blood and Fire"?

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December 19 2009, 12:47 PM	#57
ST-One Vice Admiral Location: Germany - with UHC since the early 1900s	Re: TOS-Remastered: a waste of time Haven't seen part II yet - but I'll do it.

December 20 2009, 03:04 AM	#60
Anji Rear Admiral Location: Assisting in the birth of baby Horta on Janus VI	Re: TOS-Remastered: a waste of time This is gonna sound weird but I don't really see the difference between the two. I mean, maybe because I've been watching these things for almost 40 years now, but my mind always substitutes the reimaged stuff for the old stuff.