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Old December 7 2009, 08:39 PM   #1
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Conjectural movie era uniforms

Inspired by this thread:
http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=109779

It was proposed that maybe the late 23th (and early 24th) century uniforms -that were radical departure from any Star Fleet uniform before or after this era- actually were more formal class-A uniforms, and there existed a less militaristic looking class-B variant. So here is my suggestion for class-B officer's uniform:



I am not actually sure if I like them myself, anyhow, here they are.

(Based on uniform templates originally published in Star Trek: the Magazine.)
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Old December 7 2009, 08:50 PM   #2
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Re: Conjectural movie era uniforms

They seem ok to me
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Old December 7 2009, 08:53 PM   #3
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Re: Conjectural movie era uniforms

The red movie uniforms were by far my favorites, and your adaptation is good, but if they were formal uniforms, why is it that officers always wore them? Formal uniforms before and since were only used on important occasions.

Edit: I'm not saying I don't like it. I do, very much so

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Old December 7 2009, 08:54 PM   #4
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Re: Conjectural movie era uniforms

Personally, I like them very much.
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Old December 8 2009, 01:01 AM   #5
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Re: Conjectural movie era uniforms

Longinus wrote: View Post
Inspired by this thread:
http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=109779

It was proposed that maybe the late 23th (and early 24th) century uniforms -that were radical departure from any Star Fleet uniform before or after this era- actually were more formal class-A uniforms, and there existed a less militaristic looking class-B variant. So here is my suggestion for class-B officer's uniform:



I am not actually sure if I like them myself, anyhow, here they are.

(Based on uniform templates originally published in Star Trek: the Magazine.)

Nice... I like the idea a lot, and toyed with it myself in some of my fan fics.

Have you thought about keeping the tan yoke from the jumpsuit uniform? Star fleet has a history of making two piece uniforms based off of their jumpsuit uniforms, so when I needed a "class B" uniform that was the direction I went.
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Old December 8 2009, 01:58 AM   #6
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I like these a lot. Strange thing is, I feel like I've already seen Saavik wearing one of these somewhere!
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Old December 8 2009, 02:00 AM   #7
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I like these a lot. Strange thing is, I feel like I've already seen Saavik wearing one of these somewhere!
You're thinking of the waistcoat she had on under her jacket in TSFS.
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Old December 8 2009, 02:13 AM   #8
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You're thinking of the waistcoat she had on under her jacket in TSFS.
Yeah, that almost has to be it, doesn't it?

Anyone have a picture of that so we can see how it looks in relation to the design in the OP here?
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Old December 8 2009, 02:15 AM   #9
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Re: Conjectural movie era uniforms

Longinus,

I really like your idea, and I agree that standard uniforms should have a less-militaristic look to them. Here's an additional idea: maybe Class B and lesser uniforms should use a simpler, less ornate badge design more like TOS. Maybe you could also borrow an idea from current U.S. Army fatigues by incorporating rank insignia onto the chest of the jacket, maybe on a small flap that would cover the upper part of the zipper.
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Old December 8 2009, 02:52 AM   #10
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You're thinking of the waistcoat she had on under her jacket in TSFS.
Yeah, that almost has to be it, doesn't it?

Anyone have a picture of that so we can see how it looks in relation to the design in the OP here?
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/a...tsfshd1588.jpg
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Old December 8 2009, 02:54 AM   #11
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Longinus,

I really like your idea, and I agree that standard uniforms should have a less-militaristic look to them. Here's an additional idea: maybe Class B and lesser uniforms should use a simpler, less ornate badge design more like TOS.
Agreed, I think the version used in TMP would work fine.

Maybe you could also borrow an idea from current U.S. Army fatigues by incorporating rank insignia onto the chest of the jacket, maybe on a small flap that would cover the upper part of the zipper.
Ugh. I hate that rank on the chest design.
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Old December 8 2009, 04:46 AM   #12
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Re: Conjectural movie era uniforms

Actually, what I really missed from the TWOK uniforms was the rank stripes on the sleeves. That might work well here.

I love these new uniforms. I think they would have worked well, and been well recieved.
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Old December 8 2009, 05:55 AM   #13
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^ Neat idea! That's one fine tradition that should've been carried over from TOS and TMP to the later movies verbatim, and it would've worked better than the insignia. The only thing I would've changed (in hindsight) was to make the TOS-style sleeve braids more in line with the shoulder braids used by the 20th/21st century US Navy. (Four braids for captains, instead of the TOS two-and-a-half)
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Old December 8 2009, 07:46 PM   #14
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I considered both the smaller pin and the rank stripes, but I felt that they would have been too radical departures from the style of that era.
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Old December 8 2009, 10:26 PM   #15
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Re: Conjectural movie era uniforms

These are variations for the early 24th century, before the TNG uniforms were adopted.



Officer's duty uniforms inspired by Kirk's Nexus vest. For these less fancy uniforms red has been phased out except for the senior officers. The red version of the coat is only worn by the captain and the first officer. Science and medical has again been combined under a single colour. Movie uniforms remain as formal wear.



Alternate jumpsuits. Mostly worn by enlisted personnel, but also on occasion by officers that find pockets handy, such as engineers.
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