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Old November 13 2009, 05:21 PM   #76
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Re: Synthetic actor in the Cage???

Earlier someone mentioned how much better Decker's ship looks in DOOMSDAY MACHINE, but in a way I disagree.

Yes, the damage looks "more real", but they put it out of synch with something Spock said (tho' I believe the same mistake was made in the original too, just differently).

Spock says 'The bridge is uninhabitable, but the rest of the ship can support life'.

We then see an external shot, and huge sections of the saucer are missing the outer hull, obviously exposed to space. Yeah. Very habitable.
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Old November 13 2009, 06:39 PM   #77
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Emergency bulkheads closed just out of view.
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Old November 16 2009, 05:32 AM   #78
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Old November 16 2009, 04:48 PM   #79
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Did everyone miss the joke, here? I don't know whose face this is but it's been inserted into the CGI shot.

Here's the remastered footage (this shot appears at about 0.59 seconds). I think it looks very, very nice.

\\http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmEuXsa4z_Q

Having embarrassed/humiliated myself on the Interweb many times, I'm not afraid to admit I missed it. Sure, the face/head looked odd compared to the rest of the shot, but I assumed it was because it unnaturally zoomed. Can we see the pre-joke shot? Based upon the shape of the hair, it looks like the person's head was not turned toward us, correct?

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Old November 16 2009, 08:13 PM   #80
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Wow, I've never unpacked a gag.



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Old November 16 2009, 08:47 PM   #81
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Emergency bulkheads closed just out of view.
Yeah, that 'mistake' was in the original.

Spock was being uncharacteristicly non speciific. The bridge WAS uninhabitable, but large parts of the rest of the ship were still okay---but clearly not ALL.

They mentioned emergency bulkheads several times in TOS, so they would have sealed off the 'open to space' areas.
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Old November 16 2009, 09:18 PM   #82
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Earlier someone mentioned how much better Decker's ship looks in DOOMSDAY MACHINE, but in a way I disagree.

Yes, the damage looks "more real", but they put it out of synch with something Spock said (tho' I believe the same mistake was made in the original too, just differently).

Spock says 'The bridge is uninhabitable, but the rest of the ship can support life'.

We then see an external shot, and huge sections of the saucer are missing the outer hull, obviously exposed to space. Yeah. Very habitable.
Parts of the ship look pretty "uninhabitable" in this shot; there are at least three big bites taken out of the saucer. The bridge area actually seems undamaged, though!



So what do we believe: Spock's line of dialogue, or what we see on the screen?
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Old November 16 2009, 10:24 PM   #83
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In the remastered--they do show some damage to the bridge---and since the bridge is basically one 'room'--it's uninhabitable.

But clearly large parts of the ship are not damaged and are habitable.

Spock wasn't being totally specific, but the ship WAS habitable since a lot of it was intact.
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Old November 21 2009, 04:28 PM   #84
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Thing is he looked like a Cardassian at first.
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Old November 23 2009, 06:35 AM   #85
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Spock wasn't being totally specific, but the ship WAS habitable since a lot of it was intact.
Could easily have been microfractures through parts of the hull.. not visible, but nasty about letting air leak out. Could have been toxins released from something else that flooded some decks, etc... LOTS of things could have happened short of the planet killer taking a nibble there.
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Old November 24 2009, 01:37 AM   #86
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^ The bridge doesn't have be in a hard vacuum to be uninhabitable.
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