How do Voyager fans feel about DS9? - Page 5

Kestrel · November 10 2009, 12:11 AM

Just wanted to chime in again and say the "VOY hatred" is being blown out of proportion, as the poll over in the Niner subforum shows...

gupeter · November 13 2009, 11:41 AM

Actually I think that DS9 hit more of the Trek thing tahn any of the others after TOS.

It is a moot point anyway as if you pay attention over the years all of the series blend together.

So nitter natter about what series is best..... in your hearts you like them all

Guy Gardener · November 16 2009, 05:26 AM

I find it humourous how the most vocal Janeway apologists will not accept the first mote of criticism or decent, that they must deomonize decent casual ordinary people with the most innocent questions.

Yup, Galileo and me, two peas in a pod.

Anwar · November 16 2009, 05:36 AM

I think you mean "dissent", not decent.

But yeah, they do treat her as the Mary Sue that Jeri Taylor unwisely wrote her as.

Guy Gardener · November 16 2009, 08:14 AM

Hells, I even spelt descent and decent the same.

meh.

By the end, Janeway had a nicer head of hair than Sisko.

kimc · November 16 2009, 05:37 PM

Guy Gardener wrote:

I find it humourous how the most vocal Janeway apologists will not accept the first mote of criticism or decent, that they must deomonize decent casual ordinary people with the most innocent questions.

Anwar wrote:

But yeah, they do treat her as the Mary Sue that Jeri Taylor unwisely wrote her as.

Let's keep it about posts and not posters. Thanks.

Evil Ezri · November 17 2009, 02:04 AM

If I had free time to watch Voyager or DS9, I may be more interested at this time to watch Voyager. A single episode of Voyager can stand on their own, with the down turn Voyager has a habit of having rebooting the series. With DS9, it is not that simple as you have to watch it from episode to the next episode.

Think the worst that can drive new fans nuts, is to see Kes and 7 of 9 and back again being out of order. Feel it is worse, is when you see Jadzia Dax and Ezri Dax and back again being out of order.

Kestrel · November 17 2009, 02:20 AM

kimc wrote:

Guy Gardener wrote:

I find it humourous how the most vocal Janeway apologists will not accept the first mote of criticism or decent, that they must deomonize decent casual ordinary people with the most innocent questions.

Anwar wrote:

But yeah, they do treat her as the Mary Sue that Jeri Taylor unwisely wrote her as.

Let's keep it about posts and not posters. Thanks.

Guy and Anwar weren't talking about anybody in particular, more a segment of fandom in general.

DevilEyes · November 17 2009, 02:44 AM

Evil Ezri wrote:

If I had free time to watch Voyager or DS9, I may be more interested at this time to watch Voyager. A single episode of Voyager can stand on their own, with the down turn Voyager has a habit of having rebooting the series. With DS9, it is not that simple as you have to watch it from episode to the next episode.

Think the worst that can drive new fans nuts, is to see Kes and 7 of 9 and back again being out of order. Feel it is worse, is when you see Jadzia Dax and Ezri Dax and back again being out of order.

Why would you want to watch the episodes out of order?

Evil Ezri · November 17 2009, 02:55 AM

DevilEyes wrote:

Evil Ezri wrote:

If I had free time to watch Voyager or DS9, I may be more interested at this time to watch Voyager. A single episode of Voyager can stand on their own, with the down turn Voyager has a habit of having rebooting the series. With DS9, it is not that simple as you have to watch it from episode to the next episode.

Think the worst that can drive new fans nuts, is to see Kes and 7 of 9 and back again being out of order. Feel it is worse, is when you see Jadzia Dax and Ezri Dax and back again being out of order.

Why would you want to watch the episodes out of order?

Years ago in a time long long lost, Spike TV used to broadcast TNG, Voyager and yes DS9. Sometimes, you miss an episode and have to deal with watching the shows out of order.

Guy Gardener · November 17 2009, 03:12 AM

Evil Ezri wrote:

If I had free time to watch Voyager or DS9, I may be more interested at this time to watch Voyager. A single episode of Voyager can stand on their own, with the down turn Voyager has a habit of having rebooting the series. With DS9, it is not that simple as you have to watch it from episode to the next episode.

Think the worst that can drive new fans nuts, is to see Kes and 7 of 9 and back again being out of order. Feel it is worse, is when you see Jadzia Dax and Ezri Dax and back again being out of order.

Back when I was copying vhs tapes a decade and change ago, It was usually more about convenience than chronology, that when I sit down in the here and now to watch one of these old lock-boxes of mildew and rot, if they still work, people are getting older and younger and and their hair styles are all over the place... Jadzia and Ezi, Ezri is wonderful, but she only got the one year that was mostly occupied by a tightly written 14 episode continuing story that she was wallpaper for throughout the final end run to a conclusive and definitive organic endgame. I think that because Voyager stayed the same for the whole seven years disconnected isolated reset button riddled bunny hops that the change over between Seven and Kes is about the only identifiable point in the whole series, except maybe the Deltaflier, which proves that season one Voyager is not season seven Voyager.

I was serious about her hair. I loved the Bob. It bought her sexy right to the fore. Would I not sleep with women just because she had a bun? Possibly? We'll never know until fashion begins to become ass backwards.

DevilEyes · November 17 2009, 04:23 AM

Evil Ezri wrote:

DevilEyes wrote:

Evil Ezri wrote:

If I had free time to watch Voyager or DS9, I may be more interested at this time to watch Voyager. A single episode of Voyager can stand on their own, with the down turn Voyager has a habit of having rebooting the series. With DS9, it is not that simple as you have to watch it from episode to the next episode.

Think the worst that can drive new fans nuts, is to see Kes and 7 of 9 and back again being out of order. Feel it is worse, is when you see Jadzia Dax and Ezri Dax and back again being out of order.

Why would you want to watch the episodes out of order?

Years ago in a time long long lost, Spike TV used to broadcast TNG, Voyager and yes DS9. Sometimes, you miss an episode and have to deal with watching the shows out of order.

That doesn't explain how you would see Ezri, than Jadzia, than Ezri again etc., or episodes with Kes gone and then episodes with Kes on the ship. Unless Spike TV for some reason showed episodes out of order.

As for missing episodes, that was an issue once, but it's not much of an issue today, when you can just download the episode you've missed, or, in some cases, watch it online.

Guy Gardener · November 17 2009, 05:10 AM

Combing conflicting viewings of regularly scheduled from competing networks that 4 or 5 episodes of ds9 and or Voyager can be found a day across the board from your cable stations + network + local, along side your personal collection...

Why didn't we see the zhian'tara ceremony from season 3's facets with Ezri. that would have been fun. i wonder who would have taken Jadzia's personality and if Kurzon and/or odo could really be trusted again?

But that would have put them in the same room.

I giggled to see Seven and Kess all blonde and lovely working along side each other. It made my pants happy. How grateful I am for all the scenes in which Seven and Harry shared over the next 4 years which surpassed the Ocampan and the Borg's chemistry by sooooooooooooooo much.

chakotay_lover · November 17 2009, 05:22 AM

As a huge voyager and tng fan I thought ds9 was ok, it was lacking in adventure, because they were on a space station and there was a planet and some exploring of the gamma quadrant, and sometimes earth, but that was it really, alot of kidnapping and dominion war....kinda boring sometimes, and they killed of jaxdea, one of my favorite cahracters of the series. i like captains siskos WERID expressions, really sometimes his facial expressions were serial killer scary...and I liked the feragis. Overall ds9 just lacked variety. they milked the dominion and prophets and ferganar and founders and cardassians and bojourns and that was about it..yep that about sums up seven seasons of ds9.

freak · November 18 2009, 04:27 AM

I like DS9 but I prefer Voyager.

I can also sympathize with the characters and relate to the cast on Voyager more so than DS9. I personally liked the plot development more on Voyager than on DS9. They were just on a space station on DS9, whereas on Voyager they were stranded 70,000 light years in space.

kessy joe · Today, 02:29 AM

I love both shows.

Guy Gardener · Today, 02:47 AM

I tell my children the same story. One of them knows I'm lying.