A little research project concerning Sisko - Page 3

Kestrel · November 13 2009, 12:50 AM

And I'm saying you'd have a much better case if you weren't using such an extreme example. You know, maybe one where Kira isn't seeing her friends systematically hunted down and killed by a deranged psychopath and she's about to meet the same fate. Kira comes off as harsh, but the true ugliness in that episode is the Krazy Kardassian - whose "clean killing" is proven to be a lie when he's willing to let Baby O'Brien die.

Myasishchev · November 13 2009, 01:11 AM

Sisko should've yelled at Bashir and Whitey O'Brien for pretending to fight for (in part) the ability to own slaves at the Alamo.

Nerys Ghemor · November 13 2009, 02:48 AM

Silaran Prin was batshit crazy. On that I totally agree. But to me, when I saw that episode, I saw nothing good. No one deserved to win that one, period.

DevilEyes · November 13 2009, 05:48 AM

flemm wrote:

The other thing that is going on is that somebody's malaise with how blithely utopian Trek tends to be is being expressed via Sisko's dislike for the Vic's lounge holodeck fantasy. Maybe it was Avery Brook's (probably, from what I gather), though I guess it could be the writer's, or just a desire to follow up on Far Beyond the Stars. So, this injects a would-be serious subplot into the episode.

Heh, there actually is a Television Trope to describe this: Sisko was basically Lampshade Hanging about the Politically Correct History, i.e. holodeck program.

doctorfoto · November 13 2009, 05:32 PM

Back to the original topic, aside from the alcohol previously mentioned (did anyone mention Saurian Brandy?, that was his favorite I believe), Sisko has prepared and consumed several dishes involving meat:

Chicken paprikash in Family Business
Squid (with purée of tube grub sauce) in Blaze of Glory
Chicken curry (from the replicator) in Blaze of Glory
Hot Dogs in Starship Down
An entire Thanksgiving Dinner (from scratch) also mentioned in Blaze of Glory
Jake cooks a lingta roast for him in Rapture
The famous Chicken à la Sisko (prepared by Jake) in Shattered Mirror...and probably a few others.

Myasishchev · November 14 2009, 01:19 AM

I like to think he had any real meat grown in a vat on a clone farm somewhere. It's difficult to buy present-day agriculture being practiced under Earth law, what with all the hippies--and the general laziness of future people, being a chef's one thing, but farming is hard and nasty and unglamorous work. It would certainly be a big thing with the Vulcans to have that sort of thing outlawed by Council legislation. There's also the issue of shipping it. Are meat freighters covering dozens or hundreds of light years a going concern in the 24th century?

doctorfoto · November 14 2009, 01:58 AM

Worf grew up on the "farm world" of Gault
O'Brien told his wife over dinner how his mother prepared meals using "real meat"
Joseph Sisko didn't trust replicators
Picard's family had a vineyard.
Many farmers were featured and various harvests were mentioned on Bajor. First Minister Shakaar being the most prominent.
Shipments of non-replicated food and beverages were regularly delivered to the station
In You Are Cordially Invited Bashir and O'Brien were prepared a lavish meal, including some not-quite-ready kava juice (the roots were still being squeezed) They were offered replicated but turned it down.
The aforementioned Thanksgiving dinner was completely prepared from scratch. "every ingredient fresh, real" Vegetables grown for months in the hydroponics bay.
Sisko's peppers that Kasidy ruined were also grown for months
The Maquis grew all their food from scratch.

I would say that while replicated food is likely the norm - that there is a great market for 'real food' in the future