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Old November 11 2009, 08:12 PM   #1
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Wolverine Old Man Logan

So after months of anticipation I finally got to read the trade collection. It's written by Mark Millar and drawn by Steve McNiven the same super team that made the Civil War event. I love Mark Millar (Civil War, Wanted, Wolverine Enemy of the State) and McNiven is probably my favorite current artist, and it's Wolverine in a post-apocalyptic super-villain ruled world, so my expectations were high!

Unfortunately I was pretty disappointed. Not that it was bad mind you, but I expected a real knock out of the park. I think my main problem is that the story doesn't build to anything. Hawkeye is smuggling a top secret package to DC but that doesn't go anywhere. The villains teamed up and killed all the heroes but that doesn't go anywhere. The mysterious "President" ended up not being important.

I thought I read that this series was going to tie into the Marquis of Death from Millar's FF fun, but there's zero connection.

While the art was amazing, there was WAY too many splash pages. I read this thing in a hot second. That felt like a little of a cheat. Plus, the hardcover is over-sized and costs extra.

I was also hoping to see a bunch of the surviving super-villains, but we only get the Hulk and the Red Skull. That's it. It's too bad because the off-screen story of the fall of the heroes sounded so much more interesting a story.

Also, Wolverine has taken a vow of non-violence and spends almost the entire story following it. Another disappointment.

I'm starting to worry about Millar's work. I found the end of his FF run, which was up to that point stellar, to be immensely disappointing and anti-climactic. And now this.

Has anyone read the third linked story, "Marvel 1985"? Is it any good? Does it link to the Marquis storyline?
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Old November 11 2009, 08:17 PM   #2
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Wolverine took a vow of non-violence?!?! How the heck did that happen?!
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Old November 11 2009, 08:31 PM   #3
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Old November 11 2009, 08:36 PM   #4
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Wolverine is stretched way too thin. The only thing I've read from Wolverine v3 is the the first two arcs and Get Mystique (the House of M tie in). I'm not quite up to Old Man Logan yet, though.

And apparently I haven't read anything of Mark Millar's other than Ultimate X-Men. I need to remedy that.
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Old November 11 2009, 09:36 PM   #5
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I've always thought of Millar as Ellis without the same breadth of imagination. That said, he's usually pretty entertaining. Ultimates was fun--although the first series lost points for the totally original concept of Nazi aliens (sigh), it's does a pretty good job of world building and the real point of the story is to showcase the assholes who comprise our Ultimate Universe Avengers, which is neat although not everyone's cup of tea.

Yet I can't help but wonder how much lower my estimation of the book would be sans the beautiful Bryan Hitch and Paul Neary artwork. Certainly I never read Ultimates vol. 3, before I ever even heard Loeb's writing was beyond terrible.

Civil War is okay, too, although it's pretty obvious whom Millar feels the "bad guys" are, even though they win. I wish Stark had just blasted Rogers' stupid, smug face off.

His Authority wasn't very entertaining, although again that may be because Frank Quitely draws like someone in diabetic shock and who has only seen one rather unattractive face in their entire life.
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Old November 11 2009, 09:41 PM   #6
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I've always found Bryan Hitch's artwork to be incredibly ugly. Well, the backgrounds are beautiful. But he draws the ugliest people, particularly the women, who are usually making some obscene smug face with their tongue sticking out for some bizarre reason.
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Old November 11 2009, 09:53 PM   #7
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Hitch, or Quitely? I could see that with Quitely. Hitch by contrast (I always thought) is very good with faces and anatomy, and making people distinct.
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Old November 11 2009, 10:35 PM   #8
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They both draw ugly people. Quietly definitely wins the no-prize for ugliest women in comic books, though. With Q it's a squint-eyed sneer... with Hitch it's sticking their tongue out.
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Old November 12 2009, 02:31 AM   #9
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Wolverine took a vow of non-violence?!?! How the heck did that happen?!
That's almost like Ron Jeremy taking a vow of chastity at the beginning of a movie or Jack Black vowing to be completely serious at the beginning of a movie. What a really stupid idea.
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Old November 12 2009, 03:15 AM   #10
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Wolverine took a vow of non-violence?!?! How the heck did that happen?!
That's almost like Ron Jeremy taking a vow of chastity at the beginning of a movie or Jack Black vowing to be completely serious at the beginning of a movie. What a really stupid idea.
In the context of the series I thought it was actually pretty cool.
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Old November 12 2009, 03:45 AM   #11
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Oh yeah it definitely works within the series, it just makes for a slightly boring story
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Old November 12 2009, 06:37 AM   #12
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I thought I read that this series was going to tie into the Marquis of Death from Millar's FF fun, but there's zero connection.

Has anyone read the third linked story, "Marvel 1985"? Is it any good? Does it link to the Marquis storyline?
Millar's FF, 1985, Old Man Logan and even Kick-Ass all interlink in some form or another. And yes, 1985 is quite good. That, Kick-Ass, Cable & Deadpool, Fables, Sandman and Watchmen helped get my girlfriend into comics hardcore.
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Old November 12 2009, 01:39 PM   #13
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OK I did some wiki-reading and apparently the link is that
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Old November 12 2009, 08:54 PM   #14
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Wolverine took a vow of non-violence?!?! How the heck did that happen?!
That's almost like Ron Jeremy taking a vow of chastity at the beginning of a movie or Jack Black vowing to be completely serious at the beginning of a movie. What a really stupid idea.
Why, exactly? It's kind of the whole point of the AU, a character being significantly different; in this case, Wolverine's become resigned to the way the world is. Millar's the opposite of subtle, but that characterization I thought he handled quite well.
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Old November 12 2009, 10:54 PM   #15
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Metal manipulation powers, man.
Have they finally broken down and started calling Magneto and Polaris's power "metal manipulation?" I've been waiting for that for a long time, because they sure do manage to find a ton of ferrous metal everywhere.
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