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Old November 11 2009, 09:32 AM   #1
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Guinan in ENT novels?

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Guinan was slated to appear in an episode planned for the unproduced fifth season of Star Trek: Enterprise entitled "The Treatment". Under the assumed name "Claranna", she would have been acting personal assistant of the head of the United Earth Space Probe Agency. More of her background would have been revealed, including what she was doing there since the time of Mark Twain.

Any chance this could be worked into any future ENT novels? I think it'd be great!
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Old November 11 2009, 02:04 PM   #2
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Re: Guinan in ENT novels?

^Cool. I've always dug Guinan. I think she's the best character that Whoppi Goldberg has ever played.

I'd too would love to see her appear in an Enterprise novel, but only in a limited way. Too much, and it would seem a little too fan-wanky. A cameo would be perfect. I've always felt that to get the best out of her character you need Picard. Even though Guinan is centuries old and has been on Earth before, Picard always seemed like her true link to humanity.
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Old November 11 2009, 02:23 PM   #3
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From Memory Alpha:
Guinan was slated to appear in an episode planned for the unproduced fifth season of Star Trek: Enterprise entitled "The Treatment". Under the assumed name "Claranna", she would have been acting personal assistant of the head of the United Earth Space Probe Agency. More of her background would have been revealed, including what she was doing there since the time of Mark Twain.

Any chance this could be worked into any future ENT novels? I think it'd be great!
Except it would contradict my Guinan backstory from The Buried Age, which asserted that she hadn't been to Earth between the 1890s and the 2290s.
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Old November 11 2009, 02:44 PM   #4
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Re: Guinan in ENT novels?

Then it's a good thing that the episode was never made. Her role in The Buried Age was exactly what I was talking about. It wasn't a huge role, but she was really important. Making sure Picard went back to Starfleet was not only important for her (he needed to save her life down the line after all), but for Starfleet in general. Picard is the kind of captain that only comes along once a generation .
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Old November 11 2009, 02:57 PM   #5
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Re: Guinan in ENT novels?

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From Memory Alpha:
Guinan was slated to appear in an episode planned for the unproduced fifth season of Star Trek: Enterprise entitled "The Treatment". Under the assumed name "Claranna", she would have been acting personal assistant of the head of the United Earth Space Probe Agency. More of her background would have been revealed, including what she was doing there since the time of Mark Twain.

Any chance this could be worked into any future ENT novels? I think it'd be great!
Except it would contradict my Guinan backstory from The Buried Age, which asserted that she hadn't been to Earth between the 1890s and the 2290s.
Oh. I withdraw the request then. Haven't read TBA yet, so I wasn't aware of that.
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Old November 11 2009, 03:49 PM   #6
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Re: Guinan in ENT novels?

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From Memory Alpha:
Guinan was slated to appear in an episode planned for the unproduced fifth season of Star Trek: Enterprise entitled "The Treatment". Under the assumed name "Claranna", she would have been acting personal assistant of the head of the United Earth Space Probe Agency. More of her background would have been revealed, including what she was doing there since the time of Mark Twain.

Any chance this could be worked into any future ENT novels? I think it'd be great!
Except it would contradict my Guinan backstory from The Buried Age, which asserted that she hadn't been to Earth between the 1890s and the 2290s.
So what? Books aren't canon. And neither is your fan fiction. The novels are free to contradict one another, or have you forgotten that?
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Old November 11 2009, 04:04 PM   #7
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Re: Guinan in ENT novels?

^You do know that the books Christopher writes aren't fanfic, right? You do know that he's one of the regular treklit authors who just so happens to hang around here and talks with the fans...
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Old November 11 2009, 04:36 PM   #8
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^You do know that the books Christopher writes aren't fanfic, right? You do know that he's one of the regular treklit authors who just so happens to hang around here and talks with the fans...
Stephanie Meyer talks with people who read her fan fiction too. I wouldn't call the work published under her name literature either. I'll stick with the good writers, thanks.
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Old November 11 2009, 04:42 PM   #9
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^Ouch. That's kind of prick-ish . I guess everyone's entitled to their opinion though...
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Old November 11 2009, 05:18 PM   #10
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Re: Guinan in ENT novels?

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From Memory Alpha:
Guinan was slated to appear in an episode planned for the unproduced fifth season of Star Trek: Enterprise entitled "The Treatment". Under the assumed name "Claranna", she would have been acting personal assistant of the head of the United Earth Space Probe Agency. More of her background would have been revealed, including what she was doing there since the time of Mark Twain.

Any chance this could be worked into any future ENT novels? I think it'd be great!
Except it would contradict my Guinan backstory from The Buried Age, which asserted that she hadn't been to Earth between the 1890s and the 2290s.
Hmm, I didn't catch that. Guess that in itself contradicts Guinan's appearance in Greg Cox's Eugenics Wars books...Now I don't know what to believe.
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Old November 11 2009, 06:31 PM   #11
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Re: Guinan in ENT novels?

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From Memory Alpha:
Guinan was slated to appear in an episode planned for the unproduced fifth season of Star Trek: Enterprise entitled "The Treatment". Under the assumed name "Claranna", she would have been acting personal assistant of the head of the United Earth Space Probe Agency. More of her background would have been revealed, including what she was doing there since the time of Mark Twain.
Interesting, though I'd be curious to know what MA's source is for this info.

And needless to say, Guinan wouldn't need to be on Earth to play part in an ENT story...
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Old November 11 2009, 07:00 PM   #12
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^You do know that the books Christopher writes aren't fanfic, right? You do know that he's one of the regular treklit authors who just so happens to hang around here and talks with the fans...
Stephanie Meyer talks with people who read her fan fiction too. I wouldn't call the work published under her name literature either. I'll stick with the good writers, thanks.
Chill out.
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Old November 11 2009, 07:08 PM   #13
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^Ouch. That's kind of prick-ish .
That's OmahaStar for you. That's why I like the "ignore" feature so much.
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Old November 11 2009, 09:16 PM   #14
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Thanks. Now I'll know for the future
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Old November 11 2009, 09:24 PM   #15
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^Ouch. That's kind of prick-ish .
That's OmahaStar for you. That's why I like the "ignore" feature so much.
Yes, yes, that's two threads now in which you've claimed to have me on ignore. And that's funny, because you keep quoting me, which means you do keep reading what I'm saying, whether it's this thread, or the deepdiscount.com thread, or others. For someone who claims to be ignoring me, you sure do keep following me around a lot.

And it all goes back to that idiot who ran outpost gallifrey. Really, dude, you need to let it go.
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