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Old November 9 2009, 06:58 PM   #31
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According to Amazon, which is often wrong about when the title is actually available (they tend to post a date a month AFTER it comes out), Blackest Night is coming out on July 6th. http://www.amazon.com/Blackest-Night...7770827&sr=1-1

Man - July 6th is a looong time to wait on this.

The Trade for Green Lantern: Agent Orange (one of the new-color lanterns - I think Orange represents Greed) is coming out later this month. I hope my library gets it soon.

Re how do I like it so far - I haven't read any of it except checking up on some of the preview pages that get released at ign.com or comicbookresources.com. But I'm very glad that they addressed what was an "ugh"-factor to me from the Green Lantern: Rage of the Red Lanterns trade where it
is revealed that ...
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Old November 9 2009, 07:09 PM   #32
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So why, after all these countless millenia that the Green Lanterns have existed, have all these different colored rings and batteries cropped up within a couple of years? Especially ones with dubiously linked emotions. I mean greed? Really?

Yellow made a lot of sense overall, sure, but all these others? I realize there was a split by the Guardians and there's apparently some chick Guardians out there, but why now? And why so many goofy concepts? I mean seriously, this greed one is just baffling me alone.

And if the Guardians were so uber-powerful as to create the universe's most uber-powerful weapon, why are these solo renegade types able to do the same and become a viable threat?
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Old November 9 2009, 07:33 PM   #33
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So why, after all these countless millenia that the Green Lanterns have existed, have all these different colored rings and batteries cropped up within a couple of years? Especially ones with dubiously linked emotions. I mean greed? Really?

Yellow made a lot of sense overall, sure, but all these others? I realize there was a split by the Guardians and there's apparently some chick Guardians out there, but why now? And why so many goofy concepts? I mean seriously, this greed one is just baffling me alone.

And if the Guardians were so uber-powerful as to create the universe's most uber-powerful weapon, why are these solo renegade types able to do the same and become a viable threat?
Good questions all.

According to Geoff Johns' explanation - Most of it stems from the history of the corps. eg. A long time back there was split with some of the Blueskins leaving to become Zamorans and the "Guardians" for the star sapphire etc. The Red stem from the the previous version of the Green Lanterns (the Manhunters) getting a glitch and committing a massacre in sector 666. Then there are the psions of Vega (or something) that the Guardians have had a no-intrusion pact with (which of course gets broken multiple times) and they both hate each other. And all the colors are supposed to "represent emotions" (Love - Violet, Yellow- Fear, Hope - Blue, Indigo - Compassion (I don't know who's supposed to be their guardian) and so on). The weak point of course is that the original Lantern color of green (will-power) is not an emotion by itself.

So, the Violet color has an old off-shoot from the Oans as their guardian, the Blue color has a couple of guardians themselves (Ganthet and Sayd) who've left Oa to form their own corps and so on...
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Old November 9 2009, 07:56 PM   #34
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So why, after all these countless millenia that the Green Lanterns have existed, have all these different colored rings and batteries cropped up within a couple of years? Especially ones with dubiously linked emotions. I mean greed? Really?

Yellow made a lot of sense overall, sure, but all these others? I realize there was a split by the Guardians and there's apparently some chick Guardians out there, but why now? And why so many goofy concepts? I mean seriously, this greed one is just baffling me alone.

And if the Guardians were so uber-powerful as to create the universe's most uber-powerful weapon, why are these solo renegade types able to do the same and become a viable threat?
You're baffled by greed? Hell, I'm baffled at how "will power" is considered an emotion!!

Also, when Black Lanterns scan people, you see an aura around them with a word that describes an emotion. This is done inconsistently as well. Is it the emotion they're feeling at the moment? Is it the emotion they're most capable of generating in others? What? It seems to be the first option as that's why the BL's are tormenting their victims.

But when they scan Sinestro, it shows him yellow and says "fear". Except Sinestro, especially after all the ass kicking he's done, doesn't look like anyone who's even remotely afraid. He's the most confident guy in the damn book!

Sadly, for Hal, Sinestro is a far far far more interesting character and I'm reading Hal's book mainly to see what Sinestro's doing.
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Old November 9 2009, 09:42 PM   #35
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If I may say so - while Sinestro does several "cool" bad things - he just looks lame as a great super-villain. I think it's not just the moustache but that he has them "waxed" so that they are standing out as straight lines and pointed or whatever. How can you take somebody whose moustaches are waxed/pointy that seriously?

I noticed the "Fear" thing actually starting out with the Red Lanterns where there would be several captions in a red background with the word "RAGE." in them. Before that, I don't seem to recall a "Fear" caption being used much.

Also re Sinestro being afraid, it could be that he's "afraid" of chaos and that is why he believes in such rigorous dictatorial order (that pretty much had his entire planet Korugar be enslaved). However, having said that, I don't think the Yellow Ring Corps is a model of "order", at all. Quite the opposite. While Sinestro always has a plan and such and the Yellow Lanterns probably do fulfill those (including sacrificing their life in certain cases for him), I still think it's not a very organized corps. Also, while he uses the Yellow Lanterns, Sinestro has made noises that makes it seem as if his real goal is to be the leader of the Green corps and not the Yellow corps.
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Old November 9 2009, 09:49 PM   #36
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The yellow rings are definitely about inspiring fear in others. That's the main reason one of them tried to recruit Batman; because he inspires so much fear in his enemies.
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Old November 10 2009, 01:27 AM   #37
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Well most of the Corps are takes on pre-existing concepts so it's not so bad. Yellow was always there (yellow impurity, Parallax). Blue is a splinter of Green. Red is taken from the 1980s Alan Moore stories. Purple has been around forever (Star Sapphire). Orange is from the Vega Sector right where they've been forbidden to enter for decades of continuity. So really Indigo is the only one out of scratch, right?
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Old November 25 2009, 08:13 PM   #38
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Just read Issue Five.
By a happy coincidence I just received GL "Agent Orange" and GLC "Emerald Twilight" in the mail today as well! I've already read Orange and it was solid as always. I'm loving these three/four way fights between the different colors. Very cool. Larfleeze was a hoot. And Hal fighting his green and blue ring was cool. I also loved the one Guardian who kept bitching to the rest of them, LOL. "I want my protest written into the Book of Oa".
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Old November 26 2009, 08:41 AM   #39
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Well most of the Corps are takes on pre-existing concepts so it's not so bad. Yellow was always there (yellow impurity, Parallax). Blue is a splinter of Green. Red is taken from the 1980s Alan Moore stories. Purple has been around forever (Star Sapphire). Orange is from the Vega Sector right where they've been forbidden to enter for decades of continuity. So really Indigo is the only one out of scratch, right?
Indigo are also nomads that have wandered around the stars. So it is no wonder they haven't ran into them
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Old November 26 2009, 01:18 PM   #40
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I have lost some of my excitement on Blackest Night since I'm waiting for the Hardcover next summer, sigh, but that spoiler Mr. Light has me geeked out! I am going to get Agent Orange and Emerald Twilight at Christmas time along with the Star Sapphire Hardcover.
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Old November 26 2009, 02:47 PM   #41
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Yeah I've sworn off buying new issues but I had to get Blackest Night. I'm waiting on the trades for the GL and GLC tie-ins unfortunately. Sucks since apparently all the rainbow corps stuff is happening in there and that's what I'm really interested in not the zombie stuff.
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Old November 26 2009, 06:34 PM   #42
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Blackest Night might bring DC back out of the borefest that was Final Crisis.
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Old November 26 2009, 09:07 PM   #43
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Well most of the Corps are takes on pre-existing concepts so it's not so bad. Yellow was always there (yellow impurity, Parallax). Blue is a splinter of Green. Red is taken from the 1980s Alan Moore stories. Purple has been around forever (Star Sapphire). Orange is from the Vega Sector right where they've been forbidden to enter for decades of continuity. So really Indigo is the only one out of scratch, right?
Blue is also from scratch. While it's a splinter of Green, it only recently made its debut, unlike the Qwardian rings and the Star Sapphire gems.

(by the way, I'm completely tickled that the powers that were created in the Silver Age: Green, Sinestro, and Sapphire, are the ones leading the newer colors into battle.
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Old January 7 2010, 02:42 AM   #44
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Issue 6 is out... how the hell are they going to wrap all this up in just two more issues? Nekron is still just standing around a cemetery from his initial arrival. The heroes have accomplished next to nothing. This feels like it's barely halfway through the story. The coolest part of this issue was definitely
Yowza! The other question is why is Earth in particular so important? Because it's the foundation of the 52 I guess?
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Old April 1 2010, 02:29 AM   #45
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The final issue has been released! Spoilers! Well the ending didn't really blow me away, it was more adequate than anything else. There didn't really seem to be any sacrifice or cost for defeating Nekron. If anything the ending was too happy. A whole bunch of characters get ressurected... I dunno how I feel about that. Particularly some who died 5 or more years ago like Max Lord! With so many characters coming back, including the Anti-Monitor, this doesn't feel so much like the end of a story but a mere shifting of gears. I wish Martian Manhunter had stayed dead longer it's only been what a year?
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