Nutrek lit vs Primetrek lit - Page 6

Kelso · November 4 2009, 05:22 AM

middyseafort wrote:

Re: Kirk's rise in rank.

It's happened in fiction as well--Midshipman's Hope.

Can you imagine the fanboy-furor that would have ensued had JTK assumed command of the Enterprise at seventeen?

Dayton Ward · November 4 2009, 05:39 AM

Ender Wiggin would still call him a slacker?

BrotherBenny · November 4 2009, 12:34 PM

If it's general consensus that even numbered films are better than odd-numbered ones (the exception being Nemesis), and taking into account that STXI was the best odd-numbered ST film ever which brought millions of new fans to the franchise, then STXII should be the biggest, baddassiest, whoopass fest ever.

Christopher · November 4 2009, 02:44 PM

Kelso wrote:

Can you imagine the fanboy-furor that would have ensued had JTK assumed command of the Enterprise at seventeen?

Alexander the Great (another character played by Shatner, and an influence on his portrayal of Kirk) became regent of Macedon at age 16, founded his first city that same year, became king at 20, and by the age of 25 had conquered the Balkans, Asia Minor, Syria, and Egypt.

seigezunt · November 4 2009, 06:37 PM

shouldn't these two nutrek threads be merged?

Darth Duck · November 4 2009, 08:10 PM

Christopher wrote:

Kelso wrote:

Can you imagine the fanboy-furor that would have ensued had JTK assumed command of the Enterprise at seventeen?

Alexander the Great (another character played by Shatner, and an influence on his portrayal of Kirk) became regent of Macedon at age 16, founded his first city that same year, became king at 20, and by the age of 25 had conquered the Balkans, Asia Minor, Syria, and Egypt.

Yeah, but then Alexander wept, so he's a baby.

Christopher · November 4 2009, 09:20 PM

"Waaahh! Mommy, I ran out of worlds to conquer! Buy me some new ones!"
"Well, Alexander, you shouldn't have used up the old ones so quickly."

Mr. Laser Beam · November 5 2009, 02:42 PM

Kelso wrote:

Can you imagine the fanboy-furor that would have ensued had JTK assumed command of the Enterprise at seventeen?

He learned the truth at seventeen, that Starfleet was not for beauty queens.

Greg Cox · November 5 2009, 04:00 PM

Christopher wrote:

"Waaahh! Mommy, I ran out of worlds to conquer! Buy me some new ones!"
"Well, Alexander, you shouldn't have used up the old ones so quickly."

"And stop your crying. There are tyrants in Asia Minor who would love some of your old conquests . . . ."

Mike Farley · November 5 2009, 10:36 PM

Christopher wrote:

Kelso wrote:

Can you imagine the fanboy-furor that would have ensued had JTK assumed command of the Enterprise at seventeen?

Alexander the Great (another character played by Shatner, and an influence on his portrayal of Kirk) became regent of Macedon at age 16, founded his first city that same year, became king at 20, and by the age of 25 had conquered the Balkans, Asia Minor, Syria, and Egypt.

And yet still a slacker by Ender Wiggens standards!

JarodRussell · November 6 2009, 01:51 PM

Christopher wrote:

Kelso wrote:

Can you imagine the fanboy-furor that would have ensued had JTK assumed command of the Enterprise at seventeen?

Alexander the Great (another character played by Shatner, and an influence on his portrayal of Kirk) became regent of Macedon at age 16, founded his first city that same year, became king at 20, and by the age of 25 had conquered the Balkans, Asia Minor, Syria, and Egypt.

Would that work today?

rahullak · November 6 2009, 01:59 PM

Nothing that worked yesterday, will work in exactly the same way tomorrow.

Therin of Andor · November 6 2009, 09:25 PM

JarodRussell wrote:

It was actually just a reaction to the general notion that tie-in shouldn't be trying to "apologize" for the movies.

Tie-in fiction is very often written in answer to questions such as "Why did that actually happen?", along with all manner of diversions from the main plot of the parent work.

Some fans will always see authors addressing such questions as apologies (for films they didn't like) or unnecessary fanwank (for films they thought were already perfect).

Tie-ins are written for 1% of the viewing audience, but in that 1% the whole gamut of fan preferences will be represented. And no one product will ever please everyone. But, generally, a tie-in has to tie-in somewhere.

seigezunt · November 6 2009, 11:04 PM

Therin of Andor wrote:

JarodRussell wrote:

It was actually just a reaction to the general notion that tie-in shouldn't be trying to "apologize" for the movies.

Tie-in fiction is very often written in answer to questions such as "Why did that actually happen?", along with all manner of diversions from the main plot of the parent work.

Some fans will always see authors addressing such questions as apologies (for films they didn't like) or unnecessary fanwank (for films they thought were already perfect).

Tie-ins are written for 1% of the viewing audience, but in that 1% the whole gamut of fan preferences will be represented. And no one product will ever please everyone. But, generally, a tie-in has to tie-in somewhere.

and in their defence, it's really really subjective as to what is fankwank and what is just a continuity nod.

Therin of Andor · November 7 2009, 12:45 PM

seigezunt wrote:

and in their defence, it's really really subjective as to what is fankwank and what is just a continuity nod.

That was my point. Some of my favourite continuity nods in ST tie-ins have been angrily dismissed by other fans as "fanwank".