SG-U – Water (1x06) - (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS) - Page 7

David cgc · November 6 2009, 10:41 PM

Jenee wrote:

David cgc wrote:

I guess we just have high standards. They may be double standards, but they're high.

Are you two fucking kidding me?

Yes. That was, in fact, a joke.

RJDiogenes · November 7 2009, 12:20 AM

Jenee wrote:

RJDiogenes wrote:

It's because this is the 1950s. She's either a virgin or a slut.

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm glad those days are gone.

Apparently they're not.

Jenee · November 7 2009, 12:44 AM

David cgc wrote:

Jenee wrote:

David cgc wrote:

I guess we just have high standards. They may be double standards, but they're high.

Are you two fucking kidding me?

Yes. That was, in fact, a joke.

Uh ..., good one!

RJDiogenes wrote:

Jenee wrote:

RJDiogenes wrote:

It's because this is the 1950s. She's either a virgin or a slut.

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm glad those days are gone.

Apparently they're not.

I'm even gladder there are people like you and me in this world.

sidious618 · November 7 2009, 01:37 AM

Robert Maxwell wrote:

I think less of Lt. Fucksalot than I do Chloe. She has understandable issues. He's just horny.

I don't care if Scott sleeps with everyone on the ship so long as the woman (or man!) is willing; ditto for Chloe. Having orgasms is fun so by all means go do it. I do care about whether or not those instances are interesting and so far it hasn't been the case.

RJDiogenes · November 7 2009, 10:54 AM

Jenee wrote:

RJDiogenes wrote:

Jenee wrote:

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm glad those days are gone.

Apparently they're not.

I'm even gladder there are people like you and me in this world.

Ditto.

Jono · November 7 2009, 08:56 PM

I can't believe it took 6 episodes for us to finally get a wormhole travel effect in a Stargate show.

FordSVT · November 7 2009, 09:16 PM

Brent wrote:

Indeed, the Ancients and Asgard had a big alliance, along with the Nox and Furlings. Technology and materials and so forth might have been exchanged. Or, these Asgard found an Ancient outpost and raided it, seeing as they were outcasts, they probably stole Ancients space suites and modified them for their use. At any rate, there is a definite connection.

http://gateworld.net/universe/s1/106.shtml

The EVA suits from the Destiny that appear in this episode don't just look similar to the battle suits worn by the Asgard in Atlantis's "First Contact" and "The Lost Tribe." They're a reuse of the same costumes, for a very deliberate reason that remains to be revealed.

Oh! What if they somehow bring the unseen Furlings into SGU at some point?

Until now I think it was best that they were left so mysterious and nearly unmentioned, but if they could do the right story... maybe we haven't seen them because they took off into the universe in the direction of the Ancient forerunner probes?

Yoda · November 8 2009, 06:38 AM

Jenee wrote:

Yoda wrote:

Well, regardless of the Eli thing, some of us, me included, are happy to call her a tramp for sleeping with some dude she just met

David cgc wrote:

I guess we just have high standards. They may be double standards, but they're high.

Are you two fucking kidding me?

High standards my ass. More like self-righteousness.

Yeah, I know, I'm fucking nuts. How could I possibly think that fucking someone you just met is wrong?!? What kind of a 1950s dinosaur misogynist piece of shit I must be

Australis · November 8 2009, 11:26 PM

Didn't vote. Kinda average. I'm watching but it isn't gripping me.

Jenee · November 9 2009, 05:35 PM

Yoda wrote:

Yeah, I know, I'm fucking nuts. How could I possibly think that fucking someone you just met is wrong?!? What kind of a 1950s dinosaur misogynist piece of shit I must be

If you think fucking someone is just met is not for you, fine. You live your life as you see fit.

But, don't presume to judge others on how they should live their life.

There are all different kinds of people in this world and not even a quarter of them would easily fit into my way of life - or yours.

Lindley · November 9 2009, 05:52 PM

Yoda wrote:

Yeah, I know, I'm fucking nuts. How could I possibly think that fucking someone you just met is wrong?!? What kind of a 1950s dinosaur misogynist piece of shit I must be

"Wrong" may be too strong a statement; it makes a moral judgement.

But wrong for Chloe----that's a lot more defensible, because it's simply a character judgment. I guarantee she is not going to be happy when she finally wakes up and realizes Scott doesn't give a damn about her.

I dislike Buffy's ill-advised liason with Parker for the same reason.

Yoda · November 9 2009, 08:01 PM

Jenee wrote:

Yoda wrote:

Yeah, I know, I'm fucking nuts. How could I possibly think that fucking someone you just met is wrong?!? What kind of a 1950s dinosaur misogynist piece of shit I must be

If you think fucking someone is just met is not for you, fine. You live your life as you see fit.

But, don't presume to judge others on how they should live their life.

There are all different kinds of people in this world and not even a quarter of them would easily fit into my way of life - or yours.

I don't buy into cultural relativism very strongly. I'm perfectly comfortable in saying stuff like "throwing your baby off a cliff if it happens to be a girl" is wrong. I realize this isn't the same kind of thing, but I think given the health and reproductive consequences involved it's a moral issue. Especially depending on your stances in regards to certain more TNZy issues. You've got to figure not much in the way of birth control made it to Destiny.

Lindley wrote:

"Wrong" may be too strong a statement; it makes a moral judgement.

Point well taken. I was initially speaking more or less in those terms, though I'm comfortable in making that 'moral judgment'.

But wrong for Chloe----that's a lot more defensible, because it's simply a character judgment. I guarantee she is not going to be happy when she finally wakes up and realizes Scott doesn't give a damn about her.

Definitely wrong for Chloe, in that she's being naive in thinking that Scott is in love with her. She should know better, because 2 days with someone isn't really enough time to know someone very well at all. Scott on the other hand is just a douche, because he doesn't seem to care that she wants more than sex from him, and is just throwing whatever lines out there he needs in order to get some.

I dislike Buffy's ill-advised liason with Parker for the same reason.

*sigh*, Buffy, what a ho

Jenee · November 9 2009, 08:20 PM

Yoda wrote:

I don't buy into cultural relativism very strongly. I'm perfectly comfortable in saying stuff like "throwing your baby off a cliff if it happens to be a girl" is wrong. I realize this isn't the same kind of thing, but I think given the health and reproductive consequences involved it's a moral issue. Especially depending on your stances in regards to certain more TNZy issues. You've got to figure not much in the way of birth control made it to Destiny.

Bullshit. You're statement had nothing to do with the tv show and everything to do with you're own self-righteousness.

But, you're correct. This is more of a TNZ topic.

Yoda · November 9 2009, 09:23 PM

Jenee wrote:

Bullshit. You're statement had nothing to do with the tv show and everything to do with you're own self-righteousness.

My initial comment was from the perspective of what I would think of her if I knew her. I'm still not sure what the root problem of me not liking her for sleeping with a random dude is... If it's an oversensitive woman's rights thing, if it makes you feel any better I don't like Scott either, they're both useless to me.

The

in my original statement was meant to indicate that the language that I was paraphrasing was a little harsh, but that the underlying sentiment is valid to me.

I think that people who flick their fucking cigarettes out of their car windows are total fuckheads as well. If these judgments make me self-righteous then oh fucking well

Jenee · November 9 2009, 09:52 PM

It's not you personally. Just the general attitude that women should be "pure".

I think it's sexist and unrealist.

But, I do agree with the cigarette thing, so you can't be all bad ...

Lindley · November 9 2009, 10:10 PM

Jenee wrote:

It's not you personally. Just the general attitude that women should be "pure".

I think it's sexist and unrealist.

I have this attitude. I know it doesn't make sense, but it's instinctive. My interest in someone takes a tumble when I find out she's been with someone else. It *shouldn't*, but it does.

It's not sexist, though. I'm gradually working my way around to thinking that maybe *I* don't have to wait for absolutely the right person, but it's slow going. So "the attitude" is just a reflection of how I view myself.

Jenee · November 10 2009, 02:19 AM

Right. So, it's 'learned', not 'instinctive'.

Starkers · November 10 2009, 02:36 PM

Wouldn't it be utterly brilliant if Chloe ended up breaking Scott's heart? :lol?

Australis · November 11 2009, 02:48 AM

Uhhhh... dude, get a soap!