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Old February 5 2009, 06:00 AM   #31
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Re: Star Trek: Sigils and Unions--Background Thread

Thanks for looking! Unfortunately my computer-drawing and photomanipulation skills are very, very primitive--which is why I do everything by hand. (So yes, I had an extra incentive to want to break with the standard "Trek look." ) So I wouldn't have any way to vector it. If I did, though, wouldn't I lose the clearly hand-drawn look to it, even on the final version? The textured paper, the slight imperfections due to markers and the human hand, etc.?
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Old February 5 2009, 06:05 AM   #32
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Thanks for looking! Unfortunately my computer-drawing and photomanipulation skills are very, very primitive--which is why I do everything by hand. (So yes, I had an extra incentive to want to break with the standard "Trek look." ) So I wouldn't have any way to vector it. If I did, though, wouldn't I lose the clearly hand-drawn look to it, even on the final version? The textured paper, the slight imperfections due to markers and the human hand, etc.?
Oh, yeah, you would. But I meant, in case you ever wanted to have a... word mark, is the term, I believe. It means a specific, visually identifiable brand that automatically ties peoples minds to your works. A graphic design term; I actually used to have a word mark for the Journey, and I suppose even the bottom footer on the eBook of ONOW is a watermark for AotW.

For this on a cover or as a website, that'd be awesome; the vector would be more something you'd use to make banners of varying sizes without losing the crystal clear quality of the original fonts/design, since vector isn't a lossy format. Know what I mean? Like for banner exchanges and that.
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Old February 5 2009, 06:17 AM   #33
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Yeah, that makes sense.

What I usually do, though, is scan stuff at a really high resolution (300 dpi or so), so I have a file I can size down to whatever the purpose. What you're seeing there, I had to take down to about 35% of its original size.

I suppose, if I wanted a less ornate emblem, I'd do a version of the Gălor without the text. The one trouble, though, would be losing that hand-drawn look, but I guess I could make up for it the same way, by just scanning it in at a really high resolution.
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Old February 12 2009, 06:54 AM   #34
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All right, guys...here's the final Sigils and Unions emblem!

Robert--I know I didn't take your advice exactly as you had in mind, but you did get me thinking about how much I had on the paper at one time. What I saw of Ziyal's art style made me realize I needed to bring out a bit more of the austerity of Cardassian art. (Her subjects were often quite delicate and nature-oriented, but the colors and austerity of the art seemed very Cardassian, to me.) I ended up striking my name instead.

I altered the "Cardassian font" to focus less on readability and more on style, so I felt keeping the truly English script was more important than keeping the name.



As before...it still is not "perfect." But I WANT the traditional, drawn-by-hand look, instead of the sleek, computer-perfect look.
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Old April 7 2009, 05:16 AM   #35
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For anyone looking for a Sigils and Unions fix in between chapters...hop on over to Ad Astra to read the background information essays, some of which were initially hashed out right here in this thread!


http://www.adastrafanfic.com/viewseries.php?seriesid=10
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Old May 16 2009, 08:43 PM   #36
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OK...new background essay up over at Ad Astra!

http://www.adastrafanfic.com/viewstory.php?sid=318
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Old June 4 2009, 03:24 PM   #37
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Finally got a drawing of my AU Dukat (i.e. "the Good Twin") that REALLY looks the way I see him in my head!

http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=95195

Just thought I'd let you know in case anybody's interested!
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Old June 6 2009, 03:35 AM   #38
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I have some really good news! I just posted my first Cardăsda lesson to Ad Astra--where there's a forum thread where the audio should remain indefinitely!

Want to hear what my take on the Cardassian language sounds like? Well, wander on over to Ad Astra to find out!

http://www.adastrafanfic.com
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Old September 8 2009, 06:37 AM   #39
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I've just done a major overhaul on "Regions of Cardassia: Peoples and Lands." Even if you've read it before, there's a lot of new material, so enjoy!

http://www.adastrafanfic.com/viewstory.php?sid=137
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Old September 8 2009, 09:36 PM   #40
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Hey, Nerys!

EXCELLENT world-building!

Also, like the nice explanation for why the color of kanar seems to change throughout the show--different "brands", as made by different "races".

I...don't think I could embellish more without basically repeating what everyone else has said--so I'll just say: great work!
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Old September 9 2009, 06:26 AM   #41
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I REALLY appreciate you taking time to read some worldbuilding--that means a lot!!
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Old October 22 2009, 01:49 AM   #42
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I have a new drawing for you guys...some worldbuilding stuff you won't see quite yet, but soon:

http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=106368
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Old November 2 2009, 06:33 AM   #43
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I'm working on a new drawing now--this one is of AU Skrain and Ziyal Dukat, from Catacombs of Oralius.

You can watch them come to life here:
http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=107134

Everybody say, "Awwwwwww!"
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