your SUPERMAN! - Page 3

Dayton Ward · October 31 2009, 06:50 PM

Returns's heart and intentions were in the right place, but instead of trying to make its own mark it spent too much time romancing the Donner movie(s), and simply giving us "Donner+," rather than telling its own story from the ground up. Given what we got, a clean reboot ala Batman Begins would've been preferable.

Just my $.02

sidious618 · October 31 2009, 06:53 PM

Thrall wrote:

Don Draper/John Hamm was born to play Superman.

He'd be my pick as well. I'd choose Grant Morrison and Geoff Johns to write it and Scorsese to direct.

Chess Piece Face · October 31 2009, 06:56 PM

Someone who looks like alex ross painted him. No origin story. No extra kid having, type bullshit. No 20 year old superman. No wacky moments.

Chess Piece Face · October 31 2009, 06:57 PM

john hamm would fit my criteria well

Captaindemotion · October 31 2009, 07:02 PM

Skystalker wrote:

Liam Neeson* as Jor-El

*What? He seems to be Hollywood's go-to guy for the "mentor to the young hero" roles these days.

I know. He's replaced the gap that was left when Connery retired, IMHO. Must be a Celtic thing or something.

Greg Cox · October 31 2009, 07:50 PM

Captaindemotion wrote:

Skystalker wrote:

Liam Neeson* as Jor-El

*What? He seems to be Hollywood's go-to guy for the "mentor to the young hero" roles these days.

I know. He's replaced the gap that was left when Connery retired, IMHO. Must be a Celtic thing or something.

Although Anthony Hopkins is giving him a run for his money. THE MASK OF ZORRO, MISSION IMPOSSIBLE II, THE WOLFMAN, THOR, etc.

Mr. Laser Beam · October 31 2009, 09:40 PM

I realize there's an unhealthy obsession with reboots, I just don't agree that Superman needs one.

With very few exceptions, reboots only make things more complicated - darker, ambiguous, dirty, depressing. Superman, on the other hand, is above such things. The whole point of Superman is that he's perfect, or at least as close to perfect as anyone can be. He is the ultimate Boy Scout - he's innately good, absolutely incorruptible and honest. You know, like Optimus Prime.

That's why Superman is distinct - there's few true, absolute heroes left, so when we find one, we stick with it. And nothing should change that, since if it does, it kills the entire appeal and *point* of Superman's existence as a character.

Captaindemotion · October 31 2009, 09:53 PM

Greg Cox wrote:

Captaindemotion wrote:

Skystalker wrote:

Liam Neeson* as Jor-El

*What? He seems to be Hollywood's go-to guy for the "mentor to the young hero" roles these days.

I know. He's replaced the gap that was left when Connery retired, IMHO. Must be a Celtic thing or something.

Although Anthony Hopkins is giving him a run for his money. THE MASK OF ZORRO, MISSION IMPOSSIBLE II, THE WOLFMAN, THOR, etc.

True. Connery was originally meant to be in Zorro and also the first choice to voice Aslan in the Narnia series. They must both have clapped their hands and jumped for joy when he retired.

Of course, Hopkins is also a Celt (Welsh). But hey, casting directors, what about giving Gabriel Byrne or Timothy Dalton a look-in too?!

Admiral_Young · October 31 2009, 11:27 PM

Here's mine

Director: Bryan Singer
Writer: Geoff Johns

Cast:
Superman/Clark Kent: Brandon Routh
Lois Lane: Zooey Deschanel
Jimmy Olsen: Sam Huntington
Lex Luthor: Kevin Spacey
Brainiac: Voice of James Marsters
Darkseid: Voice of Michael Ironside
General Zod: Jude Law
Major Zod (Fortress hologram sequence Callum Blue)
Terrance Stamp: Voice of Jor-El
Martha Kent: Annette O'Tool
Perry White: Frank Langella
Lana Lang: Amy Adams

Galactus · October 31 2009, 11:55 PM

Director: Me
Screenwriter: Me

Cast: bad with hollywood types
Clark/Superman: actor that looks like Superman to me, alien
No Lois, No Lex,

Pretty much totally new take on the character.

RobertScorpio · November 1 2009, 12:42 AM

Galactus wrote:

Director: Me
Screenwriter: Me

Cast: bad with hollywood types
Clark/Superman: actor that looks like Superman to me, alien
No Lois, No Lex,

Pretty much totally new take on the character.

...and we all saw what Tim Burton's take was...oye...

Rob

Galactus · November 2 2009, 04:57 AM

Well I said different take on the character, not a totally new character and call him Superman.

Broccoli · November 2 2009, 08:27 PM

Mr. Laser Beam wrote:

I realize there's an unhealthy obsession with reboots, I just don't agree that Superman needs one.

With very few exceptions, reboots only make things more complicated - darker, ambiguous, dirty, depressing. Superman, on the other hand, is above such things. The whole point of Superman is that he's perfect, or at least as close to perfect as anyone can be. He is the ultimate Boy Scout - he's innately good, absolutely incorruptible and honest. You know, like Optimus Prime.

That's why Superman is distinct - there's few true, absolute heroes left, so when we find one, we stick with it. And nothing should change that, since if it does, it kills the entire appeal and *point* of Superman's existence as a character.

Reboot =/= Dark

Stone_Cold_Sisko · November 2 2009, 08:39 PM

Director: Matthew Vaughan

Idea:
Pretty much a beginning to end reboot, a more modern version of the Donner film, more reminiscent of the 90s animated show and 'post-crisis' continuity. Big action, big scale, I'd even consider a Darkseid Apokalips invasion storyline. Something BIG like that to introduce Superman to the world (in the story) would be cool, instead of yet another airplane/helicopter rescue.

There is an entire generation of film-goers who have not seen the Donner film, or whom regard it as merely a quaint 70s movie, with some warm fuzzy memories of Chris Reeve.
These are people who identify Superman most with:
-the cartoony picture on their kid's lunchbox
-Smallville
-Justice League or whatever cartoon version airs now.

I think a lot of geeks just assume that the rest of the world is like us. I'm sorry but I don't think everyone else considers the original film a pinnacle of sacred film-making.

Any 'darkness' should be plot-based darkness, and not trying to gritty up Superman's character. I consider Superman to be like a billowing American flag peeking out of the rubble of 9/11 (That's just a metaphor, not literal). Everything else can be brought to pure shit but Superman really serves as a light. I'd make the 'Smallville' portion relatively short, 1 or 2 scenes at best, and focus more on Metropolis.

RobertScorpio · November 2 2009, 09:30 PM

Stone_Cold_Sisko wrote:

Director: Matthew Vaughan

Idea:
Pretty much a beginning to end reboot, a more modern version of the Donner film, more reminiscent of the 90s animated show and 'post-crisis' continuity. Big action, big scale, I'd even consider a Darkseid Apokalips invasion storyline. Something BIG like that to introduce Superman to the world (in the story) would be cool, instead of yet another airplane/helicopter rescue.

There is an entire generation of film-goers who have not seen the Donner film, or whom regard it as merely a quaint 70s movie, with some warm fuzzy memories of Chris Reeve.
These are people who identify Superman most with:
-the cartoony picture on their kid's lunchbox
-Smallville
-Justice League or whatever cartoon version airs now.

I think a lot of geeks just assume that the rest of the world is like us. I'm sorry but I don't think everyone else considers the original film a pinnacle of sacred film-making.

Any 'darkness' should be plot-based darkness, and not trying to gritty up Superman's character. I consider Superman to be like a billowing American flag peeking out of the rubble of 9/11 (That's just a metaphor, not literal). Everything else can be brought to pure shit but Superman really serves as a light. I'd make the 'Smallville' portion relatively short, 1 or 2 scenes at best, and focus more on Metropolis.

as long as you don't, as you say, gritty up superman I like your idea..

Rob

October 31 2009, 06:50 PM	#31
Dayton Ward Word Pusher	Re: your SUPERMAN! Returns's heart and intentions were in the right place, but instead of trying to make its own mark it spent too much time romancing the Donner movie(s), and simply giving us "Donner+," rather than telling its own story from the ground up. Given what we got, a clean reboot ala Batman Begins would've been preferable. Just my $.02 __________________ www.daytonward.com "tlhingAn HoL, Mother F*cker! Do you speak it?!"

October 31 2009, 06:56 PM	#33
Chess Piece Face Commodore Location: Akron, Ohio	Re: your SUPERMAN! Someone who looks like alex ross painted him. No origin story. No extra kid having, type bullshit. No 20 year old superman. No wacky moments.

October 31 2009, 06:57 PM	#34
Chess Piece Face Commodore Location: Akron, Ohio	Re: your SUPERMAN! john hamm would fit my criteria well

October 31 2009, 09:40 PM	#37
Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Location: The visitor's bullpen	Re: your SUPERMAN! I realize there's an unhealthy obsession with reboots, I just don't agree that Superman needs one. With very few exceptions, reboots only make things more complicated - darker, ambiguous, dirty, depressing. Superman, on the other hand, is above such things. The whole point of Superman is that he's perfect, or at least as close to perfect as anyone can be. He is the ultimate Boy Scout - he's innately good, absolutely incorruptible and honest. You know, like Optimus Prime. That's why Superman is distinct - there's few true, absolute heroes left, so when we find one, we stick with it. And nothing should change that, since if it does, it kills the entire appeal and point of Superman's existence as a character. __________________ It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

October 31 2009, 11:27 PM	#39
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: your SUPERMAN! Here's mine Director: Bryan Singer Writer: Geoff Johns Cast: Superman/Clark Kent: Brandon Routh Lois Lane: Zooey Deschanel Jimmy Olsen: Sam Huntington Lex Luthor: Kevin Spacey Brainiac: Voice of James Marsters Darkseid: Voice of Michael Ironside General Zod: Jude Law Major Zod (Fortress hologram sequence Callum Blue) Terrance Stamp: Voice of Jor-El Martha Kent: Annette O'Tool Perry White: Frank Langella Lana Lang: Amy Adams __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

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October 31 2009, 11:55 PM	#40
Galactus Rear Admiral Location: The High Father	Re: your SUPERMAN! Director: Me Screenwriter: Me Cast: bad with hollywood types Clark/Superman: actor that looks like Superman to me, alien No Lois, No Lex, Pretty much totally new take on the character. __________________ Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. ~Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

November 2 2009, 04:57 AM	#42
Galactus Rear Admiral Location: The High Father	Re: your SUPERMAN! Well I said different take on the character, not a totally new character and call him Superman. __________________ Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. ~Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

November 2 2009, 08:39 PM	#44
Stone_Cold_Sisko Vice Admiral	Re: your SUPERMAN! Director: Matthew Vaughan Idea: Pretty much a beginning to end reboot, a more modern version of the Donner film, more reminiscent of the 90s animated show and 'post-crisis' continuity. Big action, big scale, I'd even consider a Darkseid Apokalips invasion storyline. Something BIG like that to introduce Superman to the world (in the story) would be cool, instead of yet another airplane/helicopter rescue. There is an entire generation of film-goers who have not seen the Donner film, or whom regard it as merely a quaint 70s movie, with some warm fuzzy memories of Chris Reeve. These are people who identify Superman most with: -the cartoony picture on their kid's lunchbox -Smallville -Justice League or whatever cartoon version airs now. I think a lot of geeks just assume that the rest of the world is like us. I'm sorry but I don't think everyone else considers the original film a pinnacle of sacred film-making. Any 'darkness' should be plot-based darkness, and not trying to gritty up Superman's character. I consider Superman to be like a billowing American flag peeking out of the rubble of 9/11 (That's just a metaphor, not literal). Everything else can be brought to pure shit but Superman really serves as a light. I'd make the 'Smallville' portion relatively short, 1 or 2 scenes at best, and focus more on Metropolis.