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View Poll Results: Grade "Synthesis"
Excellent 31 34.44%
Above Average 39 43.33%
Average 13 14.44%
Below Average 2 2.22%
Poor 5 5.56%
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Old October 27 2009, 11:18 PM   #16
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Re: Star Trek: Titan - Synthesis: Discuss / Grade <SPOILERS>

Dang. Mine didn't ship yet. I'm not sure why Star Wars books ship two weeks early from Chapters but Trek isn't even shipping on time. Amazon has had it in stock for over a week. Last time I use Chapters.
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Old October 28 2009, 11:31 PM   #17
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Re: Star Trek: Titan - Synthesis: Discuss / Grade <SPOILERS>

Overall a pretty good book and an enjoyable read.
I got a kick out of all those little references to other Sci-Fi Franchises, like leafs on the wind, moons that are not moons but space stations, or machine ghosts.

Just two things that I didn't like.

1. I'm generally not a fan of technobabble solutions, especially when they are used in crucial situations. So the dekyon field solution during the attack on Titan bugged me.

2. I would have preferred if the Titan avatar had remained on board instead of White-Blue. Nothing against White-Blue, I liked it, but I think having Titan become an actual character to develop would have held more potential.
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Old October 29 2009, 03:15 AM   #18
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Ayelbourne wrote: View Post
but I think having Titan become an actual character to develop would have held more potential.

I thought of this possibility, too, but:

A. it's too reminiscent of "Andromeda"

B. the avatar was necessary for the Synthesis (hence, the book's title)
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Old October 29 2009, 04:15 AM   #19
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Re: Star Trek: Titan - Synthesis: Discuss / Grade <SPOILERS>

Judith Sisko wrote: View Post
Ayelbourne wrote: View Post
but I think having Titan become an actual character to develop would have held more potential.

I thought of this possibility, too, but:

A. it's too reminiscent of "Andromeda"

B. the avatar was necessary for the Synthesis (hence, the book's title)
Not to mention New Frontier and Morgan Primus.
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Old October 29 2009, 04:43 AM   #20
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JD wrote: View Post
Judith Sisko wrote: View Post
Ayelbourne wrote: View Post
but I think having Titan become an actual character to develop would have held more potential.

I thought of this possibility, too, but:

A. it's too reminiscent of "Andromeda"

B. the avatar was necessary for the Synthesis (hence, the book's title)
Not to mention New Frontier and Morgan Primus.
Yeah, this was a concern of mine when Titan first showed up... but I figured I'd let it ride out and see. I wound up happy with the results.
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Old October 29 2009, 04:33 PM   #21
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Judith Sisko wrote: View Post
I thought of this possibility, too, but:

A. it's too reminiscent of "Andromeda"
So is the slipstream drive.

Also, I never watched Andromeda anyway. Nor do I read New Frontier. So...

Geeze...who the hell voted poor?
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Old October 30 2009, 01:36 AM   #22
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Judith Sisko wrote: View Post

Geeze...who the hell voted poor?
I know, I'm curious. I went back to edit but it's too late. Mods, you have my permission to edit the option to show everyone who voted. I should have checked that off in the first place.
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Old October 30 2009, 04:04 AM   #23
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Julio Angel Ortiz wrote: View Post
Judith Sisko wrote: View Post

Geeze...who the hell voted poor?
I know, I'm curious. I went back to edit but it's too late. Mods, you have my permission to edit the option to show everyone who voted. I should have checked that off in the first place.
we'll just have to live with this one, only admins can change poll options, it's one of the rare things vB isn't good at.
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Old October 31 2009, 02:08 PM   #24
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I voted "average" - some nice ideas but some fairly predictable outcomes (the life journey of the Ship's AI for example).
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Old October 31 2009, 05:44 PM   #25
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Judith Sisko wrote: View Post
I thought of this possibility, too, but:

A. it's too reminiscent of "Andromeda"
So is the slipstream drive.
Only by name, Slipstream in the Andromeda universe is very different than slipstream in the Trek universe.
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Old October 31 2009, 05:48 PM   #26
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^And neither of them has anything remotely to do with what the word "slipstream" actually means (i.e. the turbulent wake behind a propeller or the area of reduced pressure behind a fast-moving vehicle in air or water).
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Old November 2 2009, 08:20 PM   #27
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I wonder... which I do alot since I don't have a scientific background. As the slipstream corridor is generated via a starship's deflector dish (in essense projecting the corridor ahead of the ship to allow passage) could it then be said that the starship is moving through an area of "reduced pressure" behind the projection point?
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Old November 2 2009, 08:35 PM   #28
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^That would be a rough analogy at best, but it has a plausible ring to it.
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Old November 3 2009, 12:02 AM   #29
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I've only just started, but I'm glad that Pava the Andorian is getting bigger parts in the books, especially since I never got around to sending my "please include Pava in your Titan novel" e-mail to Mr. Swallow that I sent to the other Titan authors.
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Old November 3 2009, 01:02 AM   #30
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I have to say, this was a refreshing return to what I'd come to expect from the Titan series after the first three books! The characters were allowed to act out the story and draw the reader into it, including the Sentries' civilization, instead of the characters being subordinate to somebody's worldbuilding (a la Michael Crichton/CLB in Torrent Sea, or the A-plot of Sword of Damocles). While some science is always interesting and good to see, if there are no engaging characters, as far as I'm concerned there is no story.

But in this book, even the AIs were engaging, and I found myself wanting to know more about their personalities and pasts, and caring about what will happen to them after the Titan moved on. In this regard, I have to disagree with the previous poster who said they wished the avatar had stayed instead of White-Blue: I think that in White-Blue there is sufficient material for a character that can be developed.

And I'm just BURSTING with a story idea/connection that I know I can't share here, but I think there's real potential for what White-Blue could potentially assist with given his actions that we saw earlier in the story. If anyone (not a Trek author, of course) wants to know, shoot me a PM.

Even as someone who found no compelling reason to read Destiny (I quit caring about the TNG relaunch awhile back), I thought it was excellent to examine the effects that the Borg Wars continued to have on the Federation as well as on specific individuals, and how that colored everyone's reactions to the Sentries.

Now, as I'm sure everybody either knows or could easily guess, one of my favorite characters is Zurin Dakal, and I have to say, I really loved seeing how much more he's come into his own since his early difficulties trying to fit in. He still has that same quiet, introspective nature, but he seems a lot more confident in himself and that was wonderful to see. And I also appreciated seeing him used as kind of the "voice of reason" on multiple occasions instead of what could've been the stereotypical "Cardassian"--suspicious, ignorant of life outside the Union, and having a cavalier attitude towards life unlike his. That's a mistake I have seen a few authors make with him (using him for little other reason than to have him stick his foot in his mouth), and it was good to see things NOT go that way for him.

I have to say, though, I felt VERY sorry for him when he got hurt, though! Just one question...was it just his hand/arm that was mangled by the transporter, or did he have other internal damage as well? Or if not, what was it that sent him into such bad shock later--just the trauma, or was it also putting a strain, say, on his circulatory or immune system to have his flesh merged with foreign material in that manner? (And THANK YOU for not killing him!)

My one quibble, though, comes with the cover art--heck, I was actually leery about the content of the book because of the art! (A worry that thankfully, I was able to put aside.)

I get the distinct feeling that, while the art was quite attractively done from an aesthetic standpoint, that the artist did not actually read the book and was trying to play Synthesis as a genre that it's not. Had he/she actually read the book, I think the discomfort Riker showed with the Minuet program and the avatar's form--especially given his love for Troi--would have been enough of a reason to NOT pose Riker and Minuet in that provocative manner that almost makes it look like Riker's contemplating a tryst. He was doing nothing of the sort; that's very clear from the book. And it was almost like the artist was trying to make the book look like a Harlequin romance, which it was not.
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