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View Poll Results: How do you feel about Voyager?
I love Voyager, both it and DS9 are excellent 13 8.39%
I like Voyager, but I prefer DS9 56 36.13%
Voyager was okay, I have no strong feelings 27 17.42%
I disliked Voyager, DS9 was the superior show 42 27.10%
I loath Voyager, it ruined my life 10 6.45%
I'm not a Niner but I want to vote in this poll 7 4.52%
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Old October 19 2009, 08:19 AM   #31
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Re: How do Niners feel about Voyager?

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At the time it aired Voyager was my weekly Trek fix after DS9 ended. So back then I suppose I 'liked' it. As time has gone on, I've just fallen more in love with DS9, probably because now I understand more of the nuanced things that I didn't get back in Junior High. I know VOY has its flaws, but I don't despise it.
Pretty much my feel for the subject matter.
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Old October 19 2009, 10:41 AM   #32
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Having just watched DS9 S3 and VOY S1 side-by-side as they aired, I have to say VOY was actually the better overall show at that point, even if it didn't quite have the same peaks as DS9 did during that time.
I agree. Voyager started out great and slowly faded into meh-ness, while DS9 started out mediocre and became great.
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Old October 19 2009, 10:44 AM   #33
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Re: How do Niners feel about Voyager?

I love them both but DS9 have a depth that makes me partial to DS9. But then again, Voyager was the first Trek I watched, which makes it special.
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Old October 19 2009, 11:29 AM   #34
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Re: How do Niners feel about Voyager?

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I must seriously be the only person who liked "Descent," on the ENTIRE board.

Is that the TNG episode with Lore leading a renegade band of Borg? If so that is an episode that I quite enjoyed as well.
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Old October 19 2009, 11:37 AM   #35
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Re: How do Niners feel about Voyager?

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Having just watched DS9 S3 and VOY S1 side-by-side as they aired, I have to say VOY was actually the better overall show at that point, even if it didn't quite have the same peaks as DS9 did during that time.
I don't find any VOY season better than a DS9 season. Even DS9 season 1 was better than VOY season 1 - it did have lame episodes and mediocre episodes, but it had a few great ones as well. VOY rarely had what I'd call a great episode, and even then, DS9's best were superior to VOY's best.
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Old October 19 2009, 11:52 AM   #36
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Re: How do Niners feel about Voyager?

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I must seriously be the only person who liked "Descent," on the ENTIRE board.

Is that the TNG episode with Lore leading a renegade band of Borg? If so that is an episode that I quite enjoyed as well.
I like it too. Certainly better than a lot of TNG.
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Old October 19 2009, 12:54 PM   #37
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Re: How do Niners feel about Voyager?

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I must seriously be the only person who liked "Descent," on the ENTIRE board.

Is that the TNG episode with Lore leading a renegade band of Borg? If so that is an episode that I quite enjoyed as well.
I like it too. Certainly better than a lot of TNG.
Same here. They even managed a nice bit of continuity with technology upgrades for once (metaphasic shielding), and Crusher being the one to utilise it, also nice, since she was instrumental in getting the technology to be accepted.
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Old October 19 2009, 01:20 PM   #38
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Re: How do Niners feel about Voyager?

I voted, Voyager was okay, I have no strong feelings.

As others have said, the show was enjoyable but failed to live up to its potential.
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Old October 19 2009, 02:04 PM   #39
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I must seriously be the only person who liked "Descent," on the ENTIRE board.

Is that the TNG episode with Lore leading a renegade band of Borg? If so that is an episode that I quite enjoyed as well.
I like it too. Certainly better than a lot of TNG.
Liking Descent must be some sort of Cardassian thing.
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Old October 19 2009, 02:07 PM   #40
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Is that the TNG episode with Lore leading a renegade band of Borg? If so that is an episode that I quite enjoyed as well.
I like it too. Certainly better than a lot of TNG.
Liking Descent must be some sort of Cardassian thing.
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Old October 19 2009, 02:26 PM   #41
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I don't find any VOY season better than a DS9 season. Even DS9 season 1 was better than VOY season 1 - it did have lame episodes and mediocre episodes, but it had a few great ones as well. VOY rarely had what I'd call a great episode, and even then, DS9's best were superior to VOY's best.
I tend to agree, but I would qualify that judgement a bit. I think DS9's characters are stronger from the beginning, and their interactions are more interesting. Also the occupation and the prophets lend some strong themes to the show from early on, at least the political and religious overtones are interesting to me personally.

That said, for those who are tuning in for some sci-fi adventure, I could easily see them prefering Voyager in the early stages. Maybe they just find the prophets and the Bajorans annoying. Maybe they're not interested in the political dimension, especially considering the fact that terrorism, occupation, etc. were not in the forefront of anyone's mind when these episodes originally aired. Mostly the respective quality of these shows is a matter of taste in the early stages.

Taste will always play a role of course, but by the later seasons DS9 is the superior show on every level: better characters, better story arcs, political and religious concepts for those who are interested, better, more exciting sci-fi adventure for those who aren't, more stand-out individual episodes.

Mostly my gripe with Voyager is that it never got me interested. I would love for there to be 7 more seasons of Trek out there that I could look forward to watching and re-watching. Some very cool individual episodes aside, Voyager has never made me feel anything other than indifferent.
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Old October 19 2009, 02:28 PM   #42
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Re: How do Niners feel about Voyager?

IMO Descent is by far the worst TNG two-parter.
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Old October 19 2009, 02:37 PM   #43
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Mostly my gripe with Voyager is that it never got me interested. I would love for there to be 7 more seasons of Trek out there that I could look forward to watching and re-watching. Some very cool individual episodes aside, Voyager has never made me feel anything other than indifferent.
That's the way I feel. Voyager really had several very good episodes, but I never learned to like the characters enough to find enough good in the mediocre and bad episodes to feel the need to watch them again.
By contrast, I simply like the DS9 characters. That means I like re-watching even the okayish (plot-wise) episodes, or even some of the bad ones.
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IMO Descent is by far the worst TNG two-parter.
Do you include Ecounter at Farpoint in that? I know it's not two-parter as such, but...

I wouldn't say Descent is far worse than the others. Looking at a list of two-parters, they're all fairly good. Except Farpoint, if we include that.
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Old October 19 2009, 02:42 PM   #45
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Yes, I include Encounter of Farpoint (Which I like a lot, btw) and All Good Things... in that.
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