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Doctor Who "Bigger on the inside..."

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Old October 10 2009, 04:15 PM   #31
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Re: New Composer and Theme for Series Five?

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But, Cutter John, Doctor Who is a series that is defined by change. The actors change. The writers change. The look and feel of the series change. Justin Richards went as far as to say of Doctor Who that "neither the Doctor nor the TARDIS are strictly speaking necessary."
1. Doctor Who has been historically defined by change, but this does not mean that radical change will be successful today.

2. Even if major change is helpful, that doesn't mean that several major changes all at once won't be too much for the audience.

After all, nuWho has been fairly stable since David Tennant assumed the role; there is the possibility that too much major change might hurt the series today and lead to its cancellation.

I'm not saying it's likely -- I'm just saying, bear in mind that what worked 20 years ago is not guaranteed to work today.
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Old October 10 2009, 04:33 PM   #32
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Oh trust me, I'm the first one to rush in with that point when people start complaining too much about a new Doctor. But Sci said it. Too much change all at once and you risk alienating some of your audience. The need some continuity to ease into a new era. Make it feel like a continuation rather than a brand new show.
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Old October 10 2009, 05:22 PM   #33
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Re: New Composer and Theme for Series Five?

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1. Doctor Who has been historically defined by change, but this does not mean that radical change will be successful today.
But what, exactly, is changing? We have a Doctor, we have a companion, we have a TARDIS. The audience is already used to the idea that the Doctor can change, and they know that companions come and go. The only thing that is really different from the past five years is the writers and producers behind the scenes, and is that something that the core audience, not fandom, will really note?

2. Even if major change is helpful, that doesn't mean that several major changes all at once won't be too much for the audience.
But on screen, there aren't that many changes. New Doctor, new companion, new TARDIS. And each of those changes are going to be explained for the audience. We have a regeneration. We have the TARDIS heavily damaged. Why would the audience find these things alienating?

After all, nuWho has been fairly stable since David Tennant assumed the role; there is the possibility that too much major change might hurt the series today and lead to its cancellation.
But as I said above, Sci, nuWho isn't synonymous with the Davies/Tennant era anymore.

I'm not saying it's likely -- I'm just saying, bear in mind that what worked 20 years ago is not guaranteed to work today.
It wasn't guaranteed to work twenty years ago, either.

At this point, I don't see that the change from Tennat to Smith will be as radical or as traumatic as the change from Troughton to Pertwee. Pertwee's Doctor Who might as well have been a different series entirely. Smith's Who doesn't appear to be as radical a departure from the past.

At least, not yet.
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Old October 10 2009, 05:52 PM   #34
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Re: New Composer and Theme for Series Five?

In all fairness, though, those early TNG seasons' music was mostly composed by Ron Jones, while Dennis McCarthy and Jay Chattaway took over after Berman's edict.
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Old October 10 2009, 06:21 PM   #35
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In all fairness, though, those early TNG seasons' music was mostly composed by Ron Jones, while Dennis McCarthy and Jay Chattaway took over after Berman's edict.
Not quite. McCarthy did half the music for the first season. In season two, when Berman wanted the music toned down, McCarthy scaled back his scores to sonic noise. Chattaway's first scores in the third season were a little more bombastic, and when Jones was fired in the fourth season, Chattaway's scores were dialed back.
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Old October 10 2009, 08:57 PM   #36
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Re: New Composer and Theme for Series Five?

I'd still like to hear Jesper Kyd have a go...
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But, Cutter John, Doctor Who is a series that is defined by change. The actors change. The writers change. The look and feel of the series change. Justin Richards went as far as to say of Doctor Who that "neither the Doctor nor the TARDIS are strictly speaking necessary."
1. Doctor Who has been historically defined by change, but this does not mean that radical change will be successful today.

2. Even if major change is helpful, that doesn't mean that several major changes all at once won't be too much for the audience.

After all, nuWho has been fairly stable since David Tennant assumed the role; there is the possibility that too much major change might hurt the series today and lead to its cancellation.

I'm not saying it's likely -- I'm just saying, bear in mind that what worked 20 years ago is not guaranteed to work today.
Yes but even NuWho has been defined by change.

Season 1- Eccleston becomes Tennant
Season 2- Rose is the companion, then she leaves
Season 3- Martha is the companion then she leaves
Season 4- Donna etc etc etc...

I think even the average 8 year old likely understands that the show is about change. Could we have too many changes at once...possibly, but I think the Moffat/Smith era would have to be exceedingly bad to see the show cancelled.
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