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Old September 29 2009, 07:27 PM   #31
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Re: Anybody else pickup the TNG Blu-ray Movie Pack?

I watched Generations and First contact last night, i had to force myself not to watch Insurrection.......And i have to say just like TOS movies release they were superb, I'm beginning to wonder if people are sitting with microscopes, 100 feet screens and the theatrical prints running at the same time to some up with this stuff.

Nobody is going to tell me these movies on BR are anything but spectacular to watch in HD, and as i said before those nit picking usually have not even seen these on BR or have stated they wont have anything to do with them.....although that dont seem to stop them trying to convince evereybody else they are right.
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Old September 30 2009, 03:07 AM   #32
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Re: Anybody else pickup the TNG Blu-ray Movie Pack?

You're right, if these releases were really terrible, they'd be sitting in a dumpster, not out on the street. But just because they're okay enough to stand the muster of general audiences, I see no reason why reviewers shouldn't point out flaws in the picture and audio that could have been fixed.

I haven't read any reviews of these discs that have been running into the hills in rage. All they've done is point out some of the flaws.
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Old September 30 2009, 07:21 PM   #33
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Re: Anybody else pickup the TNG Blu-ray Movie Pack?

One reviewer gave a pretty good review of the picture quality of these movies but noted that had some small amount of DVR (but much less than the TOS movies)

He then concluded by saying that it probably wouldn't bother someone watching on a HDTV smaller than his 65 inch set !!!

I don't even KNOW anybody with a 65 inch HDTV, let alone own one myself.
Isn't a 65" HDTV in the $5000 range?

I am glad he noted the DNR, but I almost missed the last line where he said don't worry if your set is a smaller one.

i think some folks freak out when they hear or see any note of DNR, but if it's only visible on the largest, most expensive TVs, 95% of us will never have to worry about it.

Anyway I'm enjoying the PQ/AQ on my 32 inch set this week.
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Old September 30 2009, 08:06 PM   #34
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HDTV set size & viewing distance

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probably wouldn't bother someone watching on a HDTV smaller than his 65 inch set

Anyway I'm enjoying the PQ/AQ on my 32 inch set
Stone Cold Sisko pointed out as well as I that High Definition resolution starts to become really apparent with a screen size of 40 inches.
Sure most people do not have a HDTV larger than 50 inches.
Sure there is a difference between DVD and HDTV even with smaller screens. To notice the very small details though it is on a screen 40+ inches.
But as Arrqh points out
it is always going to depend on view distance.
from the HDTV that matters. This is true.
Typically it is recommended that the viewing distance be no further than 3X the diagonal measurement of the set.
Optimal Distance for 42inch HDTV at 1080p is 66inches = 5.5ft.
http://www.thebestplasmatv.com/guide...wing-distance/

Use this calculator device for Plasma screens:
http://www.dtvcity.com/plasmatv/plasmascreensize.html
So a 40 inch HDTV should not viewed further than (120 inches) 10 feet away and thus Grant you should be viewing your 32 inch HDTV between 4.0 - 6.66 feet.

Cnet
even has a chart for minimum viewing & maximum distances.
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-7608_7-1016109-2.html

There are also SMPTE and the THX Certification have standards that specify a viewing angle and distance here:
http://www.practical-home-theater-gu...-distance.html

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Old October 1 2009, 05:36 AM   #35
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Re: Enterprise on Blu-ray

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Mr. Laser Beam and hamudm you are both wrong. This post has a source.
Link please? And by that I mean a link to the actual article.
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Old October 1 2009, 08:50 AM   #36
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Re: Enterprise on Blu-ray

I know this'll make me sound unsophisticated but...

Blu-Ray doesn't impress me. Won't be buying these...ever
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Old October 1 2009, 11:37 AM   #37
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Link please? And by that I mean a link to the actual article.
I scanned & saved the article from the print magazine.
It is not available online (be my guest I could not locate it). I have transcribed the relevant part for that post. PM me your email address and I can pull up the TIFF file and send you a JPEG file of it this week.
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Old October 2 2009, 02:27 AM   #38
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jefferiestubes8 wrote: View Post
Mr. Laser Beam and hamudm you are both wrong. This post has a source.
Link please? And by that I mean a link to the actual article.
I haven't found a link, but I did find this from an accompanying article (I guess the same issue), which does address the SD/HD upconvert issue in the last paragraph excerpted:

Effects’ Shows

Enterprise is one of those shows—it features dozens of digital effects each episode. John Carroll, the show’s online editor at Level 3, estimates it takes him 30% to 50% longer to finish a typical episode over the standard-def episodes of previous Star Trek shows he’s worked on (he’s been with the Star Trek franchise for 14 years).

He says that’s partly because of the need to bring in “outside material” for the effects, partly because new equipment used in the HD online process “sometimes requires a few more steps,” and partly because of the format’s “unforgiving” nature, requiring him to be more thorough with even the smallest details. ( See accompanying story for more on Enterprise visual effects.)

“Our visual effects shots are composited in standard definition and upconverted to 24p at CIS [Hollywood],” says Carroll.
“Therefore, our visual-effects team has to be very aware of keeping the 3:2 consistent on their master effects reels.

That's from this story:

http://digitalcontentproducer.com/ma...s_2/index.html
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Old October 2 2009, 02:28 AM   #39
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Mr. Laser Beam wrote: View Post
Link please? And by that I mean a link to the actual article.
I scanned & saved the article from the print magazine.
It is not available online (be my guest I could not locate it). I have transcribed the relevant part for that post. PM me your email address and I can pull up the TIFF file and send you a JPEG file of it this week.
How do you get hold of Millimeter magazine? I haven't seen it in a bookstore since the late 80s and I can never get them to send me issues, even back when I was on staff at another mag. Do you have to have a New York background or something like that?
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Old October 2 2009, 06:12 PM   #40
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Re: Anybody else pickup the TNG Blu-ray Movie Pack?

FYI, the TNG Movies box set was the second-best selling Blu-Ray of the week, with TOS Season 2 the fifth best-selling.

TNG beat out both major new releases: Observe & Report and Ghosts of Girlfriends Past.
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Old October 7 2009, 07:31 AM   #41
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Well, that's a good thing. ^^
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Old October 7 2009, 01:41 PM   #42
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No, the Enterprise effects were not rendered at 480i. They were done at full HD resolution
Mr. Laser Beam and hamudm you are both wrong.

I found the online URL and posted it in the Star Trek: Enterprise seasons Blu-ray spec. features wishlist thread to continue that discussion.
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Old October 7 2009, 02:56 PM   #43
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FYI, the TNG Movies box set was the second-best selling Blu-Ray of the week, with TOS Season 2 the fifth best-selling.

TNG beat out both major new releases: Observe & Report and Ghosts of Girlfriends Past.
Wow thats pretty cool!
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Old October 7 2009, 05:28 PM   #44
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I know this'll make me sound unsophisticated but...

Blu-Ray doesn't impress me. Won't be buying these...ever
To me, it's great to see all the smallest details of the production.

However, the ships and some sets can look more like "toys" now, but I'm ok with it.
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Old October 11 2009, 04:18 PM   #45
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by that I mean a recut of Nemesis with some of the dramatic scenes put back in.
Stuart Baird has said he wouldn't want that to happen.
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