RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 138,914
Posts: 5,388,289
Members: 24,718
Currently online: 498
Newest member: Tribblemaker

TrekToday headlines

IDW Publishing November Trek Comic
By: T'Bonz on Aug 20

Pegg/Wright Trilogy In The Works
By: T'Bonz on Aug 20

Star Trek: The Compendium Rebate Details
By: T'Bonz on Aug 20

Gold Key Archives Volume 2
By: T'Bonz on Aug 19

Takei Documentary Wins Award
By: T'Bonz on Aug 19

Cumberbatch To Voice Khan
By: T'Bonz on Aug 19

Shaun And Ed On Phineas and Ferb
By: T'Bonz on Aug 18

New Ships Coming From Official Starships Collection
By: T'Bonz on Aug 18

Trek Stars Take On Ice Bucket Challenge
By: T'Bonz on Aug 18

Retro Review: Profit and Lace
By: Michelle on Aug 16


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Entertainment & Interests > TV & Media

TV & Media Non-Trek television, movies, books, music, etc.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old September 27 2009, 05:14 AM   #106
Mr. Laser Beam
Fleet Admiral
 
Mr. Laser Beam's Avatar
 
Location: The visitor's bullpen
View Mr. Laser Beam's Twitter Profile
Re: Crossovers that never happened but you wish would

wamdue wrote: View Post
but doesn't a fictional element (usually a character) from one show, appearing in another one, always prove that the two shows are in the same verse?
No. It doesn't prove anything at all.

Look at all this Tommy Westphall crap, for example. Taking the final scene of St. Elsewhere on its face, and accepting that the mere presence of a character is evidence of crossover, about 90% of all TV series in existence would be linked, through that one character. Just sharing a character is not enough to prove a link. You've got to have regular, scheduled crossovers. Like L&O and Homicide.

You cant have the case of Law&Order in one episode watch (or talk about watching) the X-Files and then in the next one, meet Mulder & Scully?
No, that wouldn't make any sense.
__________________
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
Mr. Laser Beam is online now   Reply With Quote
Old September 27 2009, 06:52 AM   #107
T'Girl
Vice Admiral
 
T'Girl's Avatar
 
Re: Crossovers that never happened but you wish would

Favorite actual cross-over was X-files and the show COPS !

- Lost and the movie Waterworld, when the Mariner final finds dry land, it's the island.
- CSI (Las Vegas) and Hannibal, sequal to Silence of the Lambs. Dr. Lector is up to his old ways in sin city.
- TOS and Alien, there was a superior animation on you-tube. I want live action now.
- Highlander and US Marshal Samuel Gerard, Tommy Lee Jones's charactor from a couple of movies, MacCloud been leaving headless bodys all over america and the world. They never really got into the police response to what must of been, with all immortals, thousands of corpses. Gerard is a bulldog, he doesn't stop. Might get a CSI out of Duncan too.
- Burn Notice and Miami Vice, Micheal and Sonny must meet.


T'Girl
T'Girl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 27 2009, 04:25 PM   #108
wamdue
Admiral
 
wamdue's Avatar
 
Location: wamdue
Re: Crossovers that never happened but you wish would

Aragorn wrote: View Post
The movie SWAT had the stars playing the characters from the TV show... yet they watched SWAT on TV and knew the SWAT theme.
thats a point. SWAT seems to reset itself into a verse, where the SWAT TV show exisits
__________________
Im Proud of the BBC
wamdue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 27 2009, 06:30 PM   #109
sojourner
Vice Admiral
 
sojourner's Avatar
 
Location: I'm at WKRP
Re: Crossovers that never happened but you wish would

The season opener of Fringe had X-files showing on a TV in the beginning and later the "X" department was mentioned in the congressional hearing. So, fiction and fact in the same show?
__________________
Baby, you and me were never meant to be, just maybe think of me once in a while...
sojourner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 27 2009, 07:59 PM   #110
Vendikarr
Rear Admiral
 
Vendikarr's Avatar
 
Location: Vendikarr
Send a message via AIM to Vendikarr
Re: Crossovers that never happened but you wish would

sojourner wrote: View Post
The season opener of Fringe had X-files showing on a TV in the beginning and later the "X" department was mentioned in the congressional hearing. So, fiction and fact in the same show?
Take a page from Stargate SG-1. When the series in the series Wormhole X-treme was being made, the Air Force let it.. plausable deniability. In a reality where the X division exists, letting a series be made about it is the perfect cover for it's operations.
__________________
"They have to help the viewers let go. Firefly did a movie to wrap things up. Buffy the Vampire Slayer continued on as a comic book. Heroes gradually lowered the quality season by season until we were grateful it ended.” - Sheldon Cooper
Vendikarr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 28 2009, 03:38 AM   #111
The Borgified Corpse
Admiral
 
The Borgified Corpse's Avatar
 
Location: Ouch! Forgotten already? You were just down there 20 minutes ago.
Re: Crossovers that never happened but you wish would

wamdue wrote: View Post
Kelthaz wrote: View Post
wamdue wrote: View Post
I dont think Doctor Who can really crossover with anything, but they could do a Whoverse Law&Order like they have done Eastenders.
Actually I think Doctor Who is probably the easiest show to crossover to another franchise. He would fit in anywhere.

Typically an episode of Doctor Who starts with the guest cast, and then about 5-10 minutes into the episode the Doctor and companion(s) show up for no reason. That format would work for anything.
in theory yes, but when you think about it, no.

think about it, all those very public alien invasions, when did that happen in the Law & Order time line? British society in the Whoverse (& most likely the whole of humanity) is very different in the Whoverse than it is in the real world, something that is not seen on Law & Order.
Perhaps. But remember that Law & Order gives us a very limited view of their world. We rarely ever see anything that doesn't directly deal with the case at hand. Even details about the characters' personal lives are rare & incidental. (For god sake, we didn't even know Serena Southerlyn was a lesbian until her final scene on the series!) So just because we don't see evidence of alien invasions on Law & Order doesn't mean they don't happen.

Also, on Doctor Who, it seems like every time one of these invasions happens, the people try very hard to forget about it the minute it's over and act like it never happened until the next invasion. (I suspect UNIT or Torchwood has access to a neuralizer from Men in Black.)

Dusty Ayres wrote: View Post
JAG is owned by CBS Television Studios, while the Magnum character is owned by NBC Universal Television. Neither would agree to such a crossover, unless both shows were made by the same company.
It makes it less likely but not impossible. Although they are owned by the same company now, Homicide and Law & Order were owned by separate companies at the time their crossovers were made. A difference in production companies also didn't prevent John Munch's cameo on The X-Files.

Allyn Gibson wrote: View Post
I wasn't asking for a crossover episode; I just want to see John Munch expand his links throughout the television cosmos. He's appeared on shows as varied as Homicide, Sesame Street, and Arrested Development.
When was he on Arrested Development?

The Sesame Street cameo was hilarious! You have not truly seen John Munch until you've seen him in Muppet form!

I guess this helps explain why he's barely on Law & Order: SVU any more. He's too busy making crossover appearances on every other TV show ever made! (Next I'm hoping to see him digitally inserted into a remastered episode of Bonanza.)

Allyn Gibson wrote: View Post
Larry Niven's Kzinti appeared in Star Trek, but that doesn't mean that Niven's Known Space universe is part of the Star Trek universe. There are similarities, but there are also vast differences.
A fear of those 2 universes merging is one of the reasons why Gene Roddenberry decanonized The Animated Series.
__________________
Kegg: "You're a Trekkie. The capacity to quibble over the minutiae of space opera films is your birthright."
The Borgified Corpse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 28 2009, 12:03 PM   #112
Allyn Gibson
Vice Admiral
 
Allyn Gibson's Avatar
 
Location: South Pennsyltucky
View Allyn Gibson's Twitter Profile Send a message via AIM to Allyn Gibson Send a message via Yahoo to Allyn Gibson
Re: Crossovers that never happened but you wish would

The Borgified Corpse wrote: View Post
When was he on Arrested Development?
Third season. Richard Belzer appeared as himself in "Save Our Bluths," and then Munch appeared in either the next episode or the one after that.

Tobias had been arrested, and the police had come up with an idea for a sting operation on the Bluths. They put Tobias in a program where criminals made collages; the idea was that by making a collage, he would subconsciously reveal secret details of what the Bluths were up to. The person in charge of this sting operation? John Munch.
Allyn Gibson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 28 2009, 03:01 PM   #113
wamdue
Admiral
 
wamdue's Avatar
 
Location: wamdue
Re: Crossovers that never happened but you wish would

The Borgified Corpse wrote: View Post
Also, on Doctor Who, it seems like every time one of these invasions happens, the people try very hard to forget about it the minute it's over and act like it never happened until the next invasion. (I suspect UNIT or Torchwood has access to a neuralizer from Men in Black.)
well Torchwood: Children of Earth, talks about the effects of all the alien invasions on the residents of the Whoverse, and its not like society is just going to forget the Cyberman/Ghost thing, it was a massive part of popular culture, it was featured as a storyline in Eastenders, unless Torchwood block those episodes from being repeated, its always going to be there.
__________________
Im Proud of the BBC
wamdue is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
crossovers

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:53 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.