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Old September 27 2009, 07:37 PM   #31
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Actually , the report is correct, they are doing it based on the Olympics schedule.

It was always known that the show was starting later (so no surprise, its airing all the week's of November sweeps, then like almost every other show taking their winter break. Now for most shows this is about 6 weeks (some go 8 weeks) with the majority of January and December, showing reruns (though usually we get one full week in December and one full week in January of new episodes (thus the normal 6 week interruption).

Now the show was (because of its late production and late starting date) very unlikely to get a full 22 episodes this year, they just don't have enough lead time. So we were honestly looking really at best at 18 or so episodes. With a 13 episode order, they go hit November sweeps (hugely important), they don't want to start up for like 3 more episodes then have another break of over a month before starting up and going to the end of May Sweeps.

This allows them to hit November sweeps fully, the run a long stretch of episodes through most likely April and May.

Now I do agree that perhaps I would run it like Lost (and run all 13 episodes straight to end at the end of May sweeps), but they might feel like they need a large bump for November sweeps (Don't know how they feel the whole schedule is going to work out) and that it is worth the potential loss in audience with a break.
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Old September 27 2009, 07:42 PM   #32
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It was a stupid idea to bring back the show in the first place.
Indeed!

I almost spat out my coffee when I read the OP's line, "the much anticipated...."

Anticipated by WHO?!?


Hell, I am anticipating SG:U, Dexter and many other shows. V was NOT one of them.

I'm anticipating it!!! And Dexter (tonight's the night! ) SG:U? eh....
Not sure why everyone is seeing this scheduling move as a totally ominous thing. It could end up being a brilliant move...
The TV programming environment is so brutal nowadays that any interruption in the schedule is harmful if not fatal. To do that to a show that won't get a chance to lock in an audience first either shows that ABC is trying to kill the show or has such unbounded faith in it that they think that the audience will bother to find it again on the other side of the Olympics. The former seems a whole lot more likely than the latter - what show is that good?

If they really are locked into showing something in Nov, the way they could salvage the situation is to re-air the first four eps after the Olympics, treat it as the launch for the whole series, and then if some Nov viewers are inclined to pay attention to schedules, they can jump in on the fifth episode. If this "strategy" is going to work, ABC needs to pump in more advertising post-Olympics.
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Old September 27 2009, 09:04 PM   #33
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I hate it how V is now the name of the aliens (for Visitors).

It's dumb. The old jewish guy telling the kids what V stood for was one of the defining and proudest moments of the first mini series.
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Old September 27 2009, 10:01 PM   #34
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The show will then take a hiatus and return in midseason - most likely, March - to run its remaining nine segs.
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Old September 27 2009, 10:13 PM   #35
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Seems like hiatuses cost viewers. Out of sight, out of mind.
Yet every single show has them between seasons and the viewers come back year after year. And many of those end on a cliffhanger so it's not like there's an inherent issue with leaving a story hanging.
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Old September 27 2009, 10:23 PM   #36
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I hate it how V is now the name of the aliens (for Visitors).
Who says that it is?
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Old September 27 2009, 10:27 PM   #37
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Watch the promos.


And I'm pretty sure Ken Johnson is a "consultant" on this the same way Glen Larson was a "consultant" on nuBSG...ie.

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Old September 27 2009, 10:39 PM   #38
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Watch the promos.


And I'm pretty sure Ken Johnson is a "consultant" on this the same way Glen Larson was a "consultant" on nuBSG...ie.

"Here's a check, go away and leave us alone"
And Warner Bros even tried to take creator status away from him by labeling the show a 'reboot' instead of a remake.
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Old September 27 2009, 10:56 PM   #39
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As for V:The Second Generation ... it really is a terrible novel. The worst part, aside from the writing, characters and pacing, is that the plot is entirely unoriginal. Kenneth Johnson was so ticked off at the direction that V: The Final Battle was taking, that he left the project. But after twenty years to craft something definitive, his story was almost an exact duplicate of The Final Battle -- just on a slightly larger scope. Even the "new" characters were carbon copies of old characters.
So what do you think of the Zedti, by the way? Do you think they're really friends of humanity or just out to enslave them just like the Visitors did?
To be honest, by the end of the novel, I really didn't care one way or the other.

Though, my guess is that the Zedti cared much more about their own insectoid skin than humanity. They weren't out to subjugate humanity, but they'd have no problem obliterating us if they thought we posed any threat to their future (including the fact that the Visitors were subjugating humanity as part of their war effort). It's almost like how we view insects around our home. We leave them alone, unless they decide to creep inside. Then we use all manner of products to eliminate the pests.
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Old September 27 2009, 11:00 PM   #40
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Seems like hiatuses cost viewers. Out of sight, out of mind.
Yet every single show has them between seasons and the viewers come back year after year.
Every show I watch (except for Dexter, but we can't all be Dexter) has a downward trajectory and the most noticeable drops correspond to the longest hiatuses. And I do pay attention to the ratings like a nervous mother hen for the bubble-y shows I like as though I can will them to go back up.

From what I can tell, nothing ever gains audience over time; everything loses audience; and the best you can hope for is that the hemmorhaging won't hit cancellation levels before the story has had a decent chance to play out. New shows have a high mortality rate and I hate to see something promising not given every possible advantage because so few new shows are even remotely interesting to me.
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Old September 27 2009, 11:07 PM   #41
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From what I can tell, nothing ever gains audience over time; everything loses audience; and the best you can hope for is that the hemmorhaging won't hit cancellation levels before the story has had a decent chance to play out.
Well, word of mouth and advertising can always increase audience from an initial small viewerbase. The classic example is Cheers, which finished dead last in the ratings in its first year and then went on to be a monster hit. It's the would-be success story the fan of every single cancelled series claims his show would have been with a little time and lovin'.
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Old September 27 2009, 11:10 PM   #42
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I hate it how V is now the name of the aliens (for Visitors).
Who says that it is?
Read it online, various ep guides and pre-reviews, etc.
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Old September 28 2009, 12:36 AM   #43
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From what I can tell, nothing ever gains audience over time; everything loses audience; and the best you can hope for is that the hemmorhaging won't hit cancellation levels before the story has had a decent chance to play out.
Well, word of mouth and advertising can always increase audience from an initial small viewerbase. The classic example is Cheers, which finished dead last in the ratings in its first year and then went on to be a monster hit. It's the would-be success story the fan of every single cancelled series claims his show would have been with a little time and lovin'.
The nuBSG miniseries is another unusual example the ratings for part 2 of the mini were higher than part one, that's nearly unheard of.
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Old September 28 2009, 12:37 AM   #44
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Seems like hiatuses cost viewers. Out of sight, out of mind.
Yet every single show has them between seasons and the viewers come back year after year.
Every show I watch (except for Dexter, but we can't all be Dexter) has a downward trajectory and the most noticeable drops correspond to the longest hiatuses. And I do pay attention to the ratings like a nervous mother hen for the bubble-y shows I like as though I can will them to go back up.

From what I can tell, nothing ever gains audience over time; everything loses audience; and the best you can hope for is that the hemmorhaging won't hit cancellation levels before the story has had a decent chance to play out. New shows have a high mortality rate and I hate to see something promising not given every possible advantage because so few new shows are even remotely interesting to me.
Maybe I was hasty about the second part of my statement though some shows seem to have a base that stays steady through its run.
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The point being, ratings going up is the exception, rather than the rule. The tactic for V could work ... but it's definitely a long shot. It'd have to be incredibly good for this to even work.
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