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Old September 26 2009, 07:42 PM   #91
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good catch, I had forgotten about that

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I dont think Doctor Who can really crossover with anything,
I wasn't asking for a crossover episode; I just want to see John Munch expand his links throughout the television cosmos. He's appeared on shows as varied as Homicide, Sesame Street, and Arrested Development. Why not add Doctor Who? The TARDIS could land in New York City, the doors open, Matt Smith pops his head out and sees John Munch, and then it takes off again. Really, not that different than "The Chase."
isnt that still a crossover? the fictional Detective John Munch appearing in Doctor Who, pretty much tells us that Doctor Who & Law & Order share the same reality.
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Old September 26 2009, 09:25 PM   #92
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Well, yeah, it's a crossover, but I don't need to see an episode where the Doctor and John Munch team up to take down crime in New York City. Just have the Doctor meet Munch.

I thought, a few years ago, it might've been interesting to add Martha Jones to Casualty (or whatever the big BBC medical drama is), after she left the Doctor.
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Old September 26 2009, 09:29 PM   #93
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I dont think Doctor Who can really crossover with anything, but they could do a Whoverse Law&Order like they have done Eastenders.
Actually I think Doctor Who is probably the easiest show to crossover to another franchise. He would fit in anywhere.

Typically an episode of Doctor Who starts with the guest cast, and then about 5-10 minutes into the episode the Doctor and companion(s) show up for no reason. That format would work for anything.
in theory yes, but when you think about it, no.

think about it, all those very public alien invasions, when did that happen in the Law & Order time line? British society in the Whoverse (& most likely the whole of humanity) is very different in the Whoverse than it is in the real world, something that is not seen on Law & Order.

It is bad enough that Without a Trace never refrenced the Cabbie Killer of CSI NY, despite being in the CSIverse, for a show that is apparntly set in the Whoverse not to metion the alien invasions is just crazy.
It's established in Doctor Who lore that alternate realities exist, so in theory The Doctor could turn up in the CSIverse.

It'd be shit though, so let's not do that.
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Old September 26 2009, 10:20 PM   #94
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Actually I think Doctor Who is probably the easiest show to crossover to another franchise. He would fit in anywhere.

Typically an episode of Doctor Who starts with the guest cast, and then about 5-10 minutes into the episode the Doctor and companion(s) show up for no reason. That format would work for anything.
in theory yes, but when you think about it, no.

think about it, all those very public alien invasions, when did that happen in the Law & Order time line? British society in the Whoverse (& most likely the whole of humanity) is very different in the Whoverse than it is in the real world, something that is not seen on Law & Order.

It is bad enough that Without a Trace never refrenced the Cabbie Killer of CSI NY, despite being in the CSIverse, for a show that is apparntly set in the Whoverse not to metion the alien invasions is just crazy.
It's established in Doctor Who lore that alternate realities exist, so in theory The Doctor could turn up in the CSIverse.

It'd be shit though, so let's not do that.
alternate realities do exisit, but RTDs wasted alternate realities, when he wrote Rose out. The Doctor can not travel to alternate realities now.

As for Martha on Casualty same problem, Casualty has never mentioned any of the Whoverse aliens invasions, besides Casualty has already had a kid wearing a cyberman mask, clearly making Doctor Who a fictional show in the Holbyverse.

never mind that the Casualty set was used in Torchwood: Children of Earth
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Old September 26 2009, 10:40 PM   #95
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alternate realities do exisit, but RTDs wasted alternate realities, when he wrote Rose out. The Doctor can not travel to alternate realities now.
Wamdue, when the hell has anyone ever let continuity get in the way of telling a good Doctor Who story? If Moffat or the writers and producers that follow want to tell an alternate universe story, do you think that he'll let "Journey's End" stand in his way? If you answer yes, you're daft.
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Old September 26 2009, 10:45 PM   #96
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alternate realities do exisit, but RTDs wasted alternate realities, when he wrote Rose out. The Doctor can not travel to alternate realities now.
Wamdue, when the hell has anyone ever let continuity get in the way of telling a good Doctor Who story? If Moffat or the writers and producers that follow want to tell an alternate universe story, do you think that he'll let "Journey's End" stand in his way? If you answer yes, you're daft.
this is true, however I would question it.
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Old September 26 2009, 11:00 PM   #97
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isnt that still a crossover? the fictional Detective John Munch appearing in Doctor Who, pretty much tells us that Doctor Who & Law & Order share the same reality.
No.

Munch appeared on X-Files and L&O, yet those two shows obviously do not share a 'verse.

Besides, Homicide - which *does* share a continuity with L&O - has already established that XF is fictional within it. So therefore XF is fictional in L&O as well. The fact that Munch appeared in both, is irrelevant.
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Old September 26 2009, 11:22 PM   #98
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isnt that still a crossover? the fictional Detective John Munch appearing in Doctor Who, pretty much tells us that Doctor Who & Law & Order share the same reality.
No.

Munch appeared on X-Files and L&O, yet those two shows obviously do not share a 'verse.

Besides, Homicide - which *does* share a continuity with L&O - has already established that XF is fictional within it. So therefore XF is fictional in L&O as well. The fact that Munch appeared in both, is irrelevant.
but doesn't a fictional element (usually a character) from one show, appearing in another one, always prove that the two shows are in the same verse?

the problem is shows do not pay enough attention to these things, and get sloppy.

You cant have the case of Law&Order in one episode watch (or talk about watching) the X-Files and then in the next one, meet Mulder & Scully?
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Old September 26 2009, 11:33 PM   #99
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alternate realities do exisit, but RTDs wasted alternate realities, when he wrote Rose out. The Doctor can not travel to alternate realities now.
They used an alternate reality way back in Inferno during Pertwee's era.. It's not an RTD thing.

Anyway, of course The Doctor can travel to an alternate reality. If the plot needs it to happen, it'll happen.
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Old September 27 2009, 12:22 AM   #100
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but doesn't a fictional element (usually a character) from one show, appearing in another one, always prove that the two shows are in the same verse?
Larry Niven's Kzinti appeared in Star Trek, but that doesn't mean that Niven's Known Space universe is part of the Star Trek universe. There are similarities, but there are also vast differences.
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Old September 27 2009, 12:35 AM   #101
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so fictional characters are not limited to the "verse" they were first created in without the two verses merging into one? could the characters on CSI Miami watch an episode of CSI NY?
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Old September 27 2009, 02:48 AM   #102
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could the characters on CSI Miami watch an episode of CSI NY?
I don't see why not. There's an episode of The X-Files with an X-Files movie, for instance.
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Old September 27 2009, 02:59 AM   #103
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The movie SWAT had the stars playing the characters from the TV show... yet they watched SWAT on TV and knew the SWAT theme.
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Old September 27 2009, 03:02 AM   #104
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CSI/Scooby-Doo (and the entire scooby gang).
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Old September 27 2009, 05:07 AM   #105
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CSI/Scooby-Doo (and the entire scooby gang).

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