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Old September 16 2009, 09:10 PM   #76
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Re: Trek romances - the good, the bad, and the boring?

^ Aaaargh, did you have to do that? My eyes are aching!
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Old September 16 2009, 09:47 PM   #77
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Old September 17 2009, 02:29 AM   #78
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MEEP!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you. Couldn't bear to quote and look at that...thing...again!!!!
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Old September 17 2009, 11:54 PM   #79
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I don't know why they had to make Neelix quite so ugly.
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Old September 18 2009, 12:26 AM   #80
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Re: Trek romances - the good, the bad, and the boring?

I'm watching VOY "Darkling" right now, and right at the beginning I learn that Kes has dumped Neelix! Now when did this happen, and why did I miss it? Or did it happen off-screen? In any case
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Old September 18 2009, 12:32 AM   #81
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I don't know why they had to make Neelix quite so ugly.
Ugly would be all right. Klingons are "ugly" from my parochial standpoint, but that's cool. The problem with Neelix is that he is goofy. On Talax, evolution produced a species of total dorks.
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Old September 18 2009, 01:37 AM   #82
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I'm watching VOY "Darkling" right now, and right at the beginning I learn that Kes has dumped Neelix! Now when did this happen, and why did I miss it? Or did it happen off-screen? In any case
I just watched it too, on HRT. Where did you watch it? Weird
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Old September 18 2009, 01:38 AM   #83
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I'm watching VOY "Darkling" right now, and right at the beginning I learn that Kes has dumped Neelix! Now when did this happen, and why did I miss it? Or did it happen off-screen? In any case
I just watched it too, on HRT. Where did you watch it? Weird
On HRT, too.
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Old September 18 2009, 06:11 PM   #84
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I'm watching VOY "Darkling" right now, and right at the beginning I learn that Kes has dumped Neelix! Now when did this happen, and why did I miss it? Or did it happen off-screen? In any case
In Warlord, Kes dumped Neelix, but she was possessed by Tierran at the time. I guess when she was herself again, the dumping stuck.
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Old September 19 2009, 04:17 AM   #85
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I'm watching VOY "Darkling" right now, and right at the beginning I learn that Kes has dumped Neelix! Now when did this happen, and why did I miss it? Or did it happen off-screen? In any case
In Warlord, Kes dumped Neelix, but she was possessed by Tierran at the time. I guess when she was herself again, the dumping stuck.
The whole Tierran thing was a massive ruse by Kes, to dump Neelix without crushing him (by having him think it was really an undead warlord who didn't like him).
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Old September 19 2009, 05:10 PM   #86
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Re: Trek romances - the good, the bad, and the boring?

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I'm watching VOY "Darkling" right now, and right at the beginning I learn that Kes has dumped Neelix! Now when did this happen, and why did I miss it? Or did it happen off-screen? In any case
In Warlord, Kes dumped Neelix, but she was possessed by Tierran at the time. I guess when she was herself again, the dumping stuck.
I hadn't thought of that. Maybe Tierran, by dumping Neelix, just did what Kes wanted to do all along but couldn't bring herself to do, so when she was herself again she realized she felt much better without Neelix.
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Old September 24 2009, 06:03 AM   #87
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Hope you don't mind me jumping in here. ]:3

These are just some of my favorites.
The good:
TOS
Kirk/Miramanee
Kirk/Keeler (Miramanee I prefer more, but I did enjoy Keeler with him too)
McCoy/Natira
Sarek/Amanda
TNG
Picard/Crusher
Picard/Vash
Picard/Kamala
Picard/Nella Daren
Riker/Tori
Geord/Leah Brahms
Worf/K'Ehleyr
VOY
Tom/B'elanna
ENT
Trip/T'pol
NuTrek
Sarek/Amanda
Spock/Uhura
Kirk/Gaila (Yeah, I know she's Kirk's "love of the week" and she'll probably never be seen or heard of again, but some fans of them have made me a fan. (so long as it's treated sweetly and not trashy))

The bad:
TOS
Kirk/most of his "love of the week" girls
TNG
Worf/Troi
Sarek/Perrin (they just didn't have the chemistry that Mark Lenard and Jane Wyatt did. Plus I didn't like her attitude)
VOY
Neelix/Kes
Chakotay/Seven

The boring:
Any ones that I found bad I found boring...

I haven't watched DS9 yet, so I can't give any couples there. D:[
I'm going to rent it once I finish Enterprise though! So I'll update this later. ]:3
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Old September 24 2009, 06:40 AM   #88
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On Talax, evolution produced a species of total dorks.
Maybe that served some valid evolutionary purpose. Maybe Talaxian predators were embarrassed to be seen preying on total dorks.
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Old September 24 2009, 06:58 AM   #89
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Re: Trek romances - the good, the bad, and the boring?

Miles and Keiko O'Brien's relationship is overlooked, but well worth noting. It is decently played by nice characters who get married and have a child. It stands out because it adds an atmosphere of normalcy to life aboard the starship; showing normal people that have a normal relationship and a normal life.

Relationships that last for one episode, or get strung along for a while before being torn apart are not really a whole lot of fun in the bigger scope of things. TV shows have a way of doing that too much. The characters can't be married and still play their roles properly, but the writers want them to have romance in their lives; so typically it almost winds up going without saying that a relationship is going to end in breakup the moment that it begins. That tends to leave an oh-so-small sour taste in my mouth.

In any case, the O'Brians are not by any means as high profile as Riker and Troi; and the documented execution of their first rate wedding and long history together make them hold the #1 spot in my book.

Bad and boring; Dianna and Beverly's fly by night romances are not bad (no Star Trek is bad), but certainly not heaven-blessed, particularly when considering that their temporary lovers have a tendency to wind up being criminals or threats of some form.
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Old September 25 2009, 12:04 AM   #90
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Re: Trek romances - the good, the bad, and the boring?

Sarek/Perrin (they just didn't have the chemistry that Mark Lenard and Jane Wyatt did. Plus I didn't like her attitude)
YES! Now I remember a romance I found unimpressive.

Yup--Perrin I saw as insanely overprotective--to the point where she dissed Spock just because he had a public difference of opinion with Sarek!

Look, if Sarek was cool with it ("Spock is an adult, Perrin--and is therefore, entitled to his opinion"), she should at least respect that. But no....
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